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Frage zur albanischen Geschichte

Erstellt von Zurich, 12.08.2009, 23:42 Uhr · 204 Antworten · 12.033 Aufrufe

  1. #121

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    um über die albanische geschichte, sprache, ethnogese zu sprechen, sollte man zumindest etwas albanisch verstehen.

    wie will jemand etwas über die albaner lernen, wenn er nicht mal deren sprache versteht??

    nach deiner wikipedia quelle gibt es ca. 100 illyrische wörter...
    demnach hat man die möglichkeit deren mögliche bedeutung in der albanischen sprache zu suchen...

    fang an.., beweis uns das gegenteil...
    oder die anderen albanologen...


  2. #122
    Avatar von chaostheorie

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    Zitat Zitat von MIC SOKOLI Beitrag anzeigen
    um über die albanische geschichte, sprache, ethnogese zu sprechen, sollte man zumindest etwas albanisch verstehen.

    wie will jemand etwas über die albaner lernen, wenn er nicht mal deren sprache versteht??

    nach deiner wikipedia quelle gibt es ca. 100 illyrische wörter...
    demnach hat man die möglichkeit deren mögliche bedeutung in der albanischen sprache zu suchen...

    fang an.., beweis uns das gegenteil...
    oder die anderen albanologen...

    Ließ dir bitte nochmal meine Beiträge durch und dann überdenke es dir.

  3. #123

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    Schon ironisch wenn Serben eine Schlacht feiern die nichteinmal Sieg war, aber die 25 gewonnenen Schlachten Skanderbegs nich erwähnen.

  4. #124

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    serben kannst du es 100 mal beweisen,
    sie werden es nicht verstehen.
    für sie gibt es nur serben.

    es wird hier viel von der alb. geschichte und kultur geschrieben,
    aber seid mal ehrlich,
    kein serbe wird es glauben,
    denn der albaner passt nicht ins serbische bild.

    ihr braucht denen nichts beweisen,wir sind nicht die einwanderer.

    man kann ihnen viel zeigen,trotzdem gehts "wo sind beweise,fotos und videoaufnahmen".

    wo steht die serbische geschichte?
    wie wird sie beschrieben ausser ein räuberisches volk(es steht in vielen lektüren) das land klaut.
    schick mir ein papier von euren helden!
    schickt mir ein papier wo es drinn steht das ihr keine bosnier oder kroaten seid.

  5. #125

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    Zitat Zitat von chaostheorie Beitrag anzeigen
    Sehr Interessant was du da schreibst, doch es wird immer Unglaubwürdiger.
    Ich habe auch gemeint das du viel Dreck redest aber halt nicht nur Dreck.

    Du erzählst hier nur Mundpropaganda man merkt sowas, da du gezwungen wirst dein Volk zu verteitigen. Du musst sowas einfach machen, egal ob wahr oder falsch dein Geschreibe ist. Was willst du damit beweisen, auch wen dein Volk reine Illyrer wären. Es Ändert nichts an der Realität, das Albanien und der Kosovo einer der ärmste Länder auf dem Balkan sind.

    du bist nicht auf seinem post eingegangen,fängst aber mit beleidigungen an.!
    das nenn ich charakter schwäche!
    aber du bist ja linksextremist,was will man erwarten???

    egal wie arm wir sind,
    wir haben uns und das macht uns reich.

    du hast aber den sinn zur realität verloren und wirst von den bullen jeden mai heftig verprügelt.

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    Origins and the Middle Ages

    The Albanians are considered descendants of ancient Illyrian or Thracian tribes of Indo-European origin that may have come to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks. Although several Greek colonies were established along the coast, the hinterland remained independent. An Illyrian kingdom was formed in the 3rd century BC , and even after it was conquered by Rome in 167 BC , some mountain tribes were never subdued. Among them were the Albani or Albanoi, whose city Albanopolis was mentioned in the 2nd century BC by Ptolemy in his Geography. Later, while nominally under Byzantine rule, Albania was raided by Slav invaders in the 6th century and was annexed to Bulgaria in the 9th century. Temporary inroads were made by Venice, which established coastal colonies, and by the Normans, who seized Durrës in 1082–85. Albanian expansion took place under the Angevin kings of Naples in the 13th century, and again under the Serbs in the 14th century. Short-lived independent principalities flourished during the second half of the 14th century.
    From the Ottomans to Independence

    Turkish advances, which began in 1388, were resisted from 1443 to 1468 by Gjerj Kastrioti, better known as Scanderbeg, the Albanian national hero, but by 1479 the Turks attained complete control of the area. Over the succeeding centuries, Islam spread throughout most of the country. Turkish rule continued through the 19th century, which saw an intensification of nationalistic feeling, often erupting into open rebellion. In November 1912, during the First Balkan War, the National Assembly convened in Vlorë under the chairmanship of Ismail Kemali and proclaimed Albania's independence. The proclamation was supported by Austria-Hungary but opposed by Russia, Serbia, Greece, and Turkey. At a conference in London in 1913, Albania's national boundaries were established—they have remained virtually unchanged since that time—and the nation was placed under the tutelage of the great powers. Albania then became a principal battleground during World War I. By the time the war ended, portions of Albania were under Italian, French, and Yugoslav control.
    Albania again asserted its independence in 1920, and a provisional government was established, as the Italians and French withdrew. Following a period of unstable parliamentary government (1921–24), Ahmet Zogu, the chief of the Mat district, seized power with Yugoslav support. He proclaimed Albania a republic in 1925, with himself as president, and a kingdom in 1928, with himself as King Zog I. A series of concessions to Italy made Albania a virtual Italian protectorate, and after Zog was forced into exile in April 1939, Italy occupied Albania, uniting it with the Italian crown. During World War II, Communist-led guerrillas under Enver Hoxha resisted Italian and German forces. The Congress of Permeti (24 May 1944) formed Albania's provisional government, naming Hoxha as premier; the congress banned the return of former King Zog, and called for a constituent assembly to meet after the complete liberation of the country. In November 1944, the Hoxha government was established in Tiranë.

    LOCATION: 39°38′ to 42°39′ N ; 19°16′ to 21°4′ E. BOUNDARY LENGTHS: Serbia and Montenegro, 287 kilometers (178 miles); Macedonia, 151 kilometers (94 miles); Greece, 282 kilometers (175 miles); coastline, 362 kilometers (225 miles). TERRITORIAL SEA LIMIT: 15 miles.


    Under Communist Rule

    The constitution of 1946 declared Albania a people's republic. Early close relations with Yugoslavia were abruptly severed when the Soviet-Yugoslav break occurred in 1948. Partly because of fundamental differences with Yugoslavia, whose borders included about 1.7 million Albanians, and partly because of ideological divergences, Albanian-Soviet relations worsened at the 22nd Communist Party Congress, and the USSR severed diplomatic relations with Albania in December 1961 and evacuated its naval and submarine bases at Vlorë.
    Relations with Communist countries other than China worsened during the 1960s, as Albania ceased to participate in the activities of the Warsaw Treaty Organization by September 1968 following the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia. With Yugoslavia, however, there were signs of rapprochement; an Albanian-Yugoslav trade pact was signed in 1970, and trade between the two nations consequently flourished. Gestures were also made to improve relations with Albania's other neighbor, Greece.
    Albania's relations with China, its ally and supporter since 1961, seemed to cool somewhat after 1971. China's détente with the United States ran counter to Albania's policy of opposition to the USSR and the United States. China's assistance to Albania ceased when the United States denounced the overthrow of China's "Gang of Four" in October of 1976.
    On 28 December 1976, Albania adopted a new constitution that formally established Marxism-Leninism as the dominant ideology and proclaimed the principle of self-reliance. The following year, Albania broke off most of its links with China and accused it of "social imperialist" policies, and in 1978 trade relations were also suspended. In 1983, however, Albania received a Chinese delegation to discuss the resumption of trade relations. Meanwhile, relations with Yugoslavia worsened following the riots by ethnic Albanians in Yugoslavia's Kosovo province in March 1981; Yugoslavia charged that Albania had instigated the protests, and Albania accused Yugoslavia of ethnic discrimination. (Nevertheless, as of 1987 Yugoslavia was Albania's main trading partner, and Albania's first rail connection with the outside world, the Shköder-Titograd link, was opened in 1986.)
    Internally, Albania seemed to be locked in bitter political conflict as the 1980s began. Prime Minister Mehmet Shehu, relieved of his defense portfolio in April 1980, died in December 1981, an alleged suicide. A year later, Hoxha charged that Shehu had been working for the US, Soviet, and Yugoslav secret services and that Shehu even had orders from Yugoslavia to kill him. Western and Yugoslav press accounts speculated that Shehu had favored an opening to the West and had been executed in the course of a power struggle. Throughout 1981–83, an extensive purge of those even remotely connected with Shehu was conducted. This was in keeping with previous purges in the 1950s of those sympathizing with Yugoslavia, in the 1960s of pro-Soviet officials, and in the late 1970s of pro-West and pro-China policymakers. On 25 September 1982, according to Albanian reports, a group of armed Albanian exiles landed on the coast and was promptly liquidated. Hoxha alleged that they had been sent by Yugoslavia.
    Hoxha died on 11 April 1985 and was succeeded as first secretary of the Workers Party by Ramiz Alia, who had been chairman of the presidium of the People's Assembly since 1982.
    In the mid-1980s, Albania took steps to end its isolation. In 1987, it established diplomatic relations with Canada, Spain, Bolivia, and the Federal Republic of Germany. In August 1987, Albania signed a treaty with Greece formally ending the state of war that had existed between the two countries since World War II.

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    In November 1912, during the First Balkan War, the National Assembly convened in Vlorë under the chairmanship of Ismail Kemali and proclaimed Albania's independence.The proclamation was supported by Austria-Hungary but opposed by Russia, Serbia, Greece, and Turkey.


    kommt es manchen bekannt vor?

  8. #128

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    Zitat Zitat von Vergilio Maro Beitrag anzeigen
    Schon ironisch wenn Serben eine Schlacht feiern die nichteinmal Sieg war, aber die 25 gewonnenen Schlachten Skanderbegs nich erwähnen.
    klar war sie ein sieg oder sind wir heute alle türken?

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    Albanien gehört aufgeteilt und das an serbien, griechenland und mazedonien. euch schicken wir dann zurück in den kaukasus oder ihr könnt dort bleiben. ihr habt dann die wahl. norden albaniens geht zurück an serbien wie einst im serbischen königreich. und den rest können sich die anderen teilen. albaner stammen aus dem kaukasus ab nur will man es nicht öffentlich zugeben.

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    Voll die kranken Menschen...

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