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Der größte Generall und Feldherr aller Zeiten...!!

Erstellt von Vuk, 01.05.2005, 23:32 Uhr · 8 Antworten · 4.545 Aufrufe

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    Der größte Generall und Feldherr aller Zeiten...!!

    Der General der NIE eine Schlacht verloren hat, für mich ist er einer der allergrößten Helden: Aleksandr Suvorov (übrigens das ist der mann in meinem avatar)

    Ich liste mal hier verschiedensten Quellen auf, die seine Biographie schildern. Eine Russische habe ich nicht (was wohl am besten wäre wenn wir über einen Russischen Helden sprechen) wir müssen uns daher mit Deutschen und Englischen Quellen begnügen.

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    Aleksandr Vasilevich Suvorov 1729–1800.

    Russian field marshal who became famous for his successful campaigns in the Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792).

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    SUVOROV, Alexander Vasiljevič (1730-1800),
    Суворов, Александр Васильевич

    Russischer Generalissimus. Alexander Suvorov ist wohl die berühmteste Persönlichkeit in der russischen Militärgeschichte. Er hat über 60 Schlachten und Kämpfe geführt und hat keine einzige davon verloren. Er erzog eine ganze Reihe von Heerführern, wie Kutuzov, Bagration, Platov und Miloradovič. Allein der Name Suvorov gilt in Russland als Symbol für die Heldenhaftigkeit.

    Im Alter von 13. Jahren wurde er zur Ausbildung in die Leibgarde der Semionov'schen Infanterie-Division geschickt, parallel besuchte er eine Kadettenschule. Suvorov lernte Kriegsgeschichte, Ingenieurs- und Artilleriewesen. Allmählich wuchs Suvorov im Rang durch seine vorbildliche Leistungen. Im Jahr 1754 wurde er Offizier und wurde zum Dienst nach Ingermanland abkommandiert.

    Die erste Kampferfahrung bekam Suvorov im Siebenjährigen Krieg 1756 - 1763, nahm an der Schlacht von Zorndorf teil (1758) und an der berühmten Schlacht bei Kuhnersdorf (1759). Als der Oberbefehlshaber Saltykov nach der erfolgreichen Schlacht zurückdrehte, sagte Suvorov "Ich würde direkt auf Berlin marschieren". 1760 war Suvorov unter den Eroberern Berlins, an der Seite von P. Rumiancev kämpfte er beim Sturm auf die Festung Colberg.

    In den folgenden Jahren entwickelte Suvorov als Kommandierender diverser Infanterie-Regimente ein eigenes System der Erziehung und Ausbildung von Soldaten. Suvorov hatte eine einzigartige Persönlichkeit, er kombinierte Strenge und Witz, hohe Intelligenz und Anspruchslosigkeit im Alltag.

    In den Jahren 1768 bis 1772 wirkte er in Polen gegen die Konföderierten. In Polen sah er seine Aufgabe darin, den gesetzlichen König von Rzecz Pospolita gegen den Aufstand zu unterstützen und den Frieden in Polen wiederherzustellen. Er betrachtete die Polen als Brüder der Russen und gebot seinen Truppen strengstens Respekt und Rücksicht gegenüber der Bevölkerung. Suvorov schaffte Ruhe in weiten Teilen Polens und wurde zum Generaloberst befördert.

    Nach seiner Rückkehr nach Russland zog es ihn in den Krieg gegen die Türken, er wurde jedoch von Katharina der Großen an die russisch-schwedische Grenze in Finnland abkommandiert. 1773 wurde er endlich in die 1. Armee von P.Rumiancev geschickt, die an der Donau stationiert war. Im Mai und Juni leitete er mehrere Angriffe, in einem von ihnen eroberte er trotz Verbot des Vorgesetzten die türkische Festung Turtukay. Rumiancev wollte den jungen General für die Eigensinnigkeit bestrafen, doch Katharina schrieb ihm: "Man verurteilt keine Sieger." Suvorov wurde erneut ausgezeichnet. Im September leitete er die Verteidigung von Girsovo und warf die türkischen Kräfte weit zurück. Im Juni 1774 fügte er mit 18.000 Mann dem 40.000 Mann starken türkischen Heer bei Kozludža eine schwere Niederlage zu. Der Friedensvertrag von Kücük hielt die russischen Erfolge fest. Aus diesem Anlaß bekam Suvorov von Katharina einen goldenen Degen mit Edelsteinen und den Grafentitel. Im August 1774 nahm er auf Katharinas Befehl an der Niederschlagung des Pugačov-Aufstandes teil. Zwischen 1774 und 1786 leitete Suvorov Regimente im Süden Russlands und unterstützte die Bemühungen von Graf Grigoriy Potemkin bezüglich der militärischen Befestigung der neugewonnen Südgebiete Russlands und der Ukraine.

    Im nächsten russisch-türkischen Krieg 1787-1791 kam sein Genie richtig zum Tragen. Zu Kriegsbeginn kommandierte Alexander Suvorov 30.000 Mann. Er konnte zahlreiche türkische Landungstruppen bei Kinburn vernichten und die Kriegsstrategie des Gegners zunichte machen. Potemkin schrieb an Katharina: "Suvorov ist mit seinen 60 Jahren so ehrgeizig bei der Sache, wie ein 20-jähriger." Bei der Erbittung der Auszeichnung Suvorovs mit der höchsten Medaille "Andrei Pervozvanny" schrieb er: "wenn Eure Majestät Suvorov diese Auszeichnung verwehren, werde ich ihm meine geben".

    Nach einer halbjährigen Verletzung bei der Belagerung des Hafens Očakov 1788 kämpfte Suvorov in Moldawien und Bessarabien. Am 21. Juli 1789 besiegte er als Kommandierender des alliierten russisch-österreichischen Heeres die türkischen Truppen von Osman-Pascha bei Focsani. Am 11. September besiegte er am Fluß Rymnik Teil für Teil das zahlenmäßig vierfach größere Türkenheer. Im November 1790 bekam er von Potemkin den Befehl, die wichtige feindliche Festung Izmail zu stürmen, die die Russen am Fortkommen hinderte. Izmail wurde von französischen Ingenieren gebaut und galt bis dahin als uneinnehmbar. Mit 35.000 Mann stürmte Suvorov die Festung, die bereits am 11. Dezember 1790 fiel. Als Gouverneur ernannte Suvorov Michail Kutuzov noch vor der Einnahme der Festung. Der Sturm von Izmail, bei dem das Heer und die Flotte exzellent koordiniert wurden , brachte Suvorov einen internationalen Ruhm in ganz Europa und revolutionierte als Beispiel die damalige Kriegsführung bei Belagerungen von Häfen. In Russland wurden zu dieser Zeit bereits Münzen mit Suvorovs Profil geprägt.

    1794 leitete Suvorov in Polen die Niederschlagung des Kosciuszko-Aufstandes. Katharina schrieb: "Ich schicke eine doppelte Macht nach Polen - die Armee und Suvorov". Ihre Erwartungen wurden erfüllt. Suvorov schlug die Aufständler, nahm Warschau ein und wurde zum Feldmarschall befördert.

    1796 veröffentlichte Suvorov sein Buch Die Kunst zu siegen, in dem er seine langjährige Erfahrung der Truppenausbildung und Heeresführung niederschrieb. Der neue Zar Pavel I. führte in der Armee neue Regeln ein, an denen Suvorov herbe Kritik äußerte, wofür er 1797 gefeuert wurde. Zwei Jahre lang musste er auf seinem Landsitz bei Novgorod unter Aufsicht leben.

    Im Zusammenhang mit der Bildung der 2. anti-französischen Koalition machte der Zar Suvorov wegen eindringlicher Bitten aus dem Ausland zum Oberkommandierenden der russischen Armee, die 1799 nach Italien geschickt wurde. Dem Feldmarschall unterstanden auch österreichische Regimente. Entschlossen und gekonnt brachte Suvorov den Franzosen mehrere Niederlagen bei und befreite Norditalien schneller, als Napoleon es zuvor erobert hatte. Wegen der egoistischen Politik des Verbündeten Österreichs, das eigene Interessen in Norditalien verfolgte, musste Suvorov in die Schweiz ausweichen. Mit der Mission, sich mit den Truppen von General Rimsky-Korsakov zu vereinen, überquerte Suvorov unter schwersten Bedingungen des verschneiten Alpenhochlandes den St.Gotthard-Pass und die Teufelsbrücke, doch Rimsky-Korsakov wurde zu dieser Zeit bereits geschlagen, und Suvorovs 22.000 Mann gerieten in die Umzingelung durch 80.000 Franzosen. Suvorov schaffte den Durchbruch aus dem Kessel und machte sogar 2.000 Gefangene. Obwohl das Ziel der Schweizer Mission nicht erreicht war, bedeckten kehrten die russischen Soldaten ruhmreich nach Hause zurück. Pavel I., der Suvorov zuvor so demütigte, schrieb anerkennend: "Sie siegten immer und überall. Nur eine Art von Ruhm fehlte ihnen: die Bezwingung der Natur selbst. Aber auch über sie haben Sie einen Sieg errungen." Suvorov wurde zum Generalissimus befördert.
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    Suvorov - Russia's Eagle Over the Alps
    By Robert A. Mosher

    Aleksandr Vasiliyevich Suvorov, Prince of Italy, Count of Rimnikskiy, Count of the Holy Roman Empire, Generalissimo of Russia's Ground and Naval forces, Field Marshal of the Austrian and Sardinian Armies, Prince of Sardinia. Seriously wounded six times, he was the recipient of the Order of St. Andrew the First Called Apostle, Order of St. George the Triumphant First Class, Order of St. Vladimir First Class, Order of St. Aleksandr Nevskiy, Order of St. Ann First Class, Grand Cross of the Order of St. Joan of Jerusalem, (Austria) Order of Maria Teresa First Class, (Prussia) Order of the Black Eagle, Order of the Red Eagle, the Pour le Merite, (Sardinia) Order of the Revered Saints Maurice and Lazarus, (Bavaria) Order of St. Gubert, the Golden Lionness, (France) Order of the Carmelite Virgin Mary, St. Lasara, (Poland) the White Eagle, the Order of St. Stanislaus.

    Born into the lesser nobility, in the city of Moscow, on November 24, 1729, his father was General Vasiliy Ivanovich Suvorov (1705-1775). Aleksandr Suvorov would spend most of his 72 years in military service to the Russian Tsars and die - according to legend - of heartbreak when Tsar Paul I denied him both recognition and the opportunity of further service even in the face of ill-health and old age. While Paul I, who attempted to remake his army and empire in the Prussian model, would almost erase his accomplishments - many of the generals who would rescue Russia from Napoleon's armies served under Suvorov. And almost 150 years later, Josef Stalin would revive the memory of the last Russian before him to bear the title "Generalissimo" and create the Order of Suvorov as an effort to restore Russian morale in the face of the Nazi invasion. Today, the Suvorov academies provide initial military training and education to young men seeking a military career and the old Field Marshal is remembered on the many military holidays of the Russian Federation.

    Aleksandr Suvorov followed the tradition established by Peter the Great and was enlisted as a private in the Semenovskiy Guards Regiment in 1742. Beginning active service in 1748, he was commissioned as a Lieutenant of Infantry in 1754, in the Ingermanlandskiy Infantry Regiment. He began his active soldiering in the Seven Years' War (1756-1763), participating in the battles of Kunersdorf (12 August 1759), Berlin (1760), and Kolberg (16 December 1761).

    In 1762, Suvorov was promoted to Colonel of the Astrakhanskiy Infantry Regiment, but the next year was named commander of the Suzdal Regiment (until 1769). In that year, Suvorov wrote a comprehensive manual for his regiment, emphasizing realistic training for battle instead of the popular Prussian-style parade ground maneuvers. When conflict with Poland began in 1768, he returned to field service as a Brigadir, winning victories at Orekhovo (1769), Landskorn, Saowicz (1771), and Krakow (1772) - while also earning a reputation as a self-willed subordinate and boldly unorthodox tactician. Nevertheless, he was promoted to Major General in 1770 and to Lieutenant General in 1773.

    The new Lieutenant General went to fight in the First Turkish War (1768-1774), where his successful descent on Turkutai, his seizure and defense of the Black Sea fort of Hirsov (September 1773), and his key role in the victory over the Turkish Army (60,000) at Kozludji (20 June 1774) established his reputation for tactical brilliance, and as an "incomparable field commander" and leader of troops. In this latter battle, Suvorov (50,000) caught part of the Turkish Army trying to cross a Danube tributary. His furious assault drove them in confusion back onto the main army creating an opportunity the whole Russian Army seized, overrunning their encampment. The Turks surrendered much of the Black Sea's northern coast, as well as concessions in Bessarabia and elsewhere.

    Despite such military successes, Suvorov always felt ill-at-ease at court, conscious of his scrawny, gaunt appearance and rough manners at a time when throughout Europe personal style and elegance often counted for as much or more than real ability. This awkwardness at court was not helped by a consistent inability to endear himself to his superiors. Suvorov always felt that these slowed his advancement, and despite his accomplishments against the Turks, he was promoted to General in chief only in 1787 - in time to take command in the Second Turkish War (1787-1792).

    Suvorov first defended the fortress of Kinburn against Turkish seaborne assaults (12 October). Then, going on to the offensive, he stormed nearby Ochakov (20,000) on 17 December 1788 after a month long siege. The following year in Moldavia, with Austrian General Prince Josias von Saxe-Coburg, he (17,000) defeated Osman Pasha (30,000) at Focsani on 31 August in less than an hour. On September 22, following a 14-kilometer night march, Suvorov (25,000) drove the main army of Grand Vizier Yusuf Pasha (60,000) from its camps on the Rymnik River in a one hour battle, overturning Turkish plans for their own offensive - and winning for himself 70 guns, 100 standards, and the title of Count Rymnikskiy. On 22 December 1790 after the Danube River fortress of Izmail rejected appeals (13 December) for its surrender after seven months of siege - Suvorov successfully stormed the fortress (35,000 men and 265 guns). Despite the rejection of Suvorov's appeal for a capitulation, the subsequent three days of looting and the slaughter of most of its defenders by the victorious Russian troops tarnished Suvorov and an otherwise brilliant achievement in the eyes of many European observers.

    Transferred to Finland at the end of the Turkish war to help watch the frontier with Sweden, Suvorov was called in 1793 to command the Russian forces against Thaddeusz Kosciuszko's Polish revolutionaries. Although Suvorov generally tried to restrain his troops, having declared that "humanity can conquer a foe no less than force of arms," his anti-revolutionary attitudes may have supported his equally strong and ruthless sense of military efficiency. Defeating the revolutionaries at Krupshchitse, Brest-Litovsk, and Kobila - his final storming of the Warsaw suburb of Praga (4 November) as again a shock to western opinion.

    Nevertheless, he was subsequently promoted to Field Marshal, and named Commander in Chief of the Southern Army. Suvorov began to train this army according to his own ideas and in 1797 wrote his major work "The Science of Victory." His ideas emphasized speed and mobility, accuracy of fire, and the bayonet, and his colloquial style was unusual for the time and subject matter. However, Suvorov's ideas clashed with those of the new Tsar. Paul I (1796-1801) - whose idol was Frederick the Great - returned the army to his beloved Prussian model. Suvorov refused to hide his opposition and openly criticized the new Infantry Code. Suvorov was dismissed and kept under close surveillance, though no evidence of his suspected treason was found.

    In 1799, Russia's new Second Coalition partner Austria requested Suvorov as Supreme Commander of the planned Austro-Russian force in Northern Italy. Still the fierce anti-revolutionary, Suvorov responded with enthusiasm and took command in February. From 15 April to August, 1799 Suvorov's combined army (45,000) defeated the French armies of Moreau (28,000) at Adda, 26-28 April, when Bagration distracted the French by his capture of the town of Lecco on their right and Suvorov prepared his successful crossriver attack into the French center; of MacDonald (33-35,000) at the River Trebbia, 17-19 June; and of Moreau (killed) and Joubert (38,000) at Novi, 15 August. This last victory virtually expelled French forces from Italy. However, Suvorov's success aroused Austrian fears for their position in Italy and as early as July, Austria and Great Britain pressed Paul I to adopt a new strategy that would send Suvorov and his army to Switzerland (27 August) instead of into France as the old Field Marshal planned.

    This plan called for Suvorov (21,000 men and 25 mountain guns) to unite in Switzerland with the Army of Rimskiy-Korsakov (24,000) and, reinforced by the Austrian armies (22,000 total), face Massena who was then threatening Switzerland. However, Massena was moving against Rimsky-Korsakov, defeating him at Zurich (25-26 September). Meanwhile, the Army of Austrian Archduke Charles was already moving away from Switzerland to the Rhine in a separate operation altogether, to reach the allied armies in the Netherlands.

    At Taverna, Suvorov found the ammunition and supplies promised by his Austrian allies had not been delivered and five days were lost gathering what was available. On 19 September, Suvorov's troops attacked LeCourbe (8,500) holding the St Gotthard Pass, the quickest though most difficult route to Switzerland. Suvorov sent General Rosenberg to outflank the French position as he attacked it directly and on 24 September, after three attacks, the Russians broke through when General Bagration's Russian yegers attacked the French rear. The next day, 25 September, Russian light troops again outflanked the French positions as the latter tried to hold the Lucerne-Lach tunnel and the Devil's Bridge. As Bagration's men struck the flank, Suvorov stepped on to the bridge, under fire, calling to his army, "See how an old Field Marshal faces the enemy!"

    At Altsdorf, on 26 September, Suvorov learned of the Russian defeat at Zurich. With no roads nor boats to ferry them across the lake there, the Russians appeared trapped and the French were closing in. However, despite his own age and illness, Suvorov decided to force a way through to Glarus. Bagration's advance guard again threw back the French (Molitor) while Rosenberg's rear guard held off Massena, before rejoining Suvorov at Glarus on 4 October. Again, Suvorov found no Austrian army nor supplies. He decided that to evade the French forces awaiting him, he would march into the 9,000 foot high mountains of the Panikh range towards Ilants. After a difficult march, the Russian army reached Ilants on October 8, finally beyond the reach of the French.

    Suvorov's successful escape still cost him as much as one third of his army and all of his guns, but gained him the grudging admiration of Europe and the nickname "the Russian Hannibal." However, despite the Field Marshal's determination to resume the war the following year, the Tsar had had enough of his Austrian and English allies and recalled Russia's armies from Europe. Recalled to St. Petersburg on 21 January 1800, the newly promoted Generalissimo found his hero's welcome cancelled, and his command, rank, and titles all stripped away by the Tsar over a suspected misdemeanor of military administration. Aleksandr Vasiliyevich Suvorov died, reportedly heartbroken, in St. Petersburg on 18 May 1800. He is buried in the chapel at the Aleksandr Nevskiy Cemetery in St. Petersburg.

    The old Field Marshal left Russia expanded frontiers, renewed military prestige, and the generals who had served and learned from his the art of war - including Mikhayl Kutuzov. But to Russia and to the world he also left a legacy of theories on the waging of war - from organization and preparation to execution - although they have been much neglected outside of Russia.

    Suvorov believed that opportunity of the battlefield is the child of fortune, but exploitation called for intelligence, experience, and an intuitive eye - the "coup d'oeil." On the battlefield, he emphasized speed, surprise, and concentration at the enemy's weakest point. At the theater or operational level, he emphasized the maneuver of forces in order to destroy the enemy's supply lines and material, and the concentration of forces against the enemy's weak point to deliver a decisive blow. At the strategic level, Suvorov emphasized speed and swiftness based upon energetic and timely mobilization of forces. While he would send units into battle piecemeal as they reached the field in order to maintain momentum, he called for concentration of mass on the enemy's weak point through which the mass must quickly and directly hit in order to sustain the attack. Afterwards must come a thorough pursuit, which could destroy the enemy. He preferred aimed fire to mass volleys but also argued for bayonet assaults for the psychological effect.

    He also displayed the ability to communicate his ideas to his troops in a form clear and comprehensible to them as shown in his "Suzdal Regulations" and other works. Even in recent times, aphorisms drawn from his works are republished for the edification of the troops. The following samples are principally from the 1987 Soldier's Calendar, a daybook featuring articles of military history, etc to inspiration of the soldier. The translations are my own. Such phrases are a staple of Russian literary tradition and Suvorov's remain popular even today.


    Discipline is the mother of victory.


    It takes not only arms to defeat an enemy.


    Although bravery, good spirits, and courage are necessary everywhere and for all cases, they are only in vain if they do not emanate from skill.


    It is a veritable rule of the military art to fall straight upon the enemy's weakest point.


    Who is valiant and boldly falls directly upon the enemy, he would already gain complete victory.


    One minute decides the outcome of a battle, one hour - the success of a campaign, one day - the fate of an empire.


    It is necessary to fight with skill, not numbers.


    Consider time the principal rule governing military direction.


    Without the lamp of the history of tactics - darkness.


    No battle can be won in the study, and theory without practice is death.


    Every soldier should understand your maneuver.


    To surprise is to vanquish.


    Swiftness and surprise translate into numbers, on onslaught and shock decide the battle.


    Speed is essential, but haste harmful.


    Know how to take advantage of position.


    Never scorn your enemy, but study his troops, his methods of action, study his strong and weak sides.


    Be patient in military difficulties, do not give way to dejection from failure.


    Better to go to danger than to wait it in place.


    A driven back enemy - unsuccessful, isolated, surrounded, scattered - equals success.
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    Alexander V. Suvorov (1729-1800) was the one man who, at the end of the 18th century, could have stopped Napoleon. He did beat Napoleon's generals Moreau, Macdonald, and Joubert. His aphorisms on war show appreciation for the need for speed (Sun Tzu: "Speed is the essence of war") and overcoming paradigms, or preconceived ideas.
    On speed: "The enemy doesn't expect us, reckons us 100 versts away, and if a long way off to begin with, 200, 300 or more– suddenly we're on him, like snow on the head; his head spins. Attack with what comes up, with what God sends; the cavalry to begin, smash, strike, cut off, don't let slip, hurra!" (Tsouras, 1992, 31) "Swiftness and impact are the soul of genuine warfare." (Tsouras, 1992, 399)
    A good solution now ("Attack with what comes up, with what God sends") is better than a perfect solution tomorrow (or even an hour from now). Suvorov's approach looks slipshod and reckless- "Attack with whatever arrives"- but suppose a cavalry company charges an enemy infantry regiment that is still in its camps, eating breakfast with its arms stacked. The company might well scatter the soldiers, destroy their camp, and put the regiment out of action. Now suppose one waits an hour for an entire cavalry brigade to arrive, to "do the job right" (or a perfect job). Sounds good- but by now the enemy regiment has had time to form itself into a square. Now a brigade cannot do what a company could have done an hour ago. This, I think, is what Suvorov meant- and his officers and enlisted soldiers understood his principles.
    "A hard drill makes an easy battle." ("Train hard, fight easy.")
    "The bullet's an idiot, the bayonet's a fine chap." (Underlying principle of the Western Way of War: "Get in the enemy's face.") "Stab once and throw the Turk off the bayonet. Bayonet another, bayonet a third; a real warrior will bayonet half a dozen and more. Keep a bullet in the barrel. If three should run at you, bayonet the first, shoot the second and lay out the third with your bayonet. This isn't common but you haven't time to reload..." (Tsouras, 1992, 23)
    On overcoming paradigms: what if a scaling ladder was too short to reach the top of a wall? "Bayonet into the wall– climb on to it, after him another and a third. Comrade help comrade!" (Tsouras, 1992, 35)
    This short phrase illustrates two important concepts of modern management practice, and of self-directed or self-managing work teams. "Don't wait for someone to tell you what to do. Develop an innovative solution and work as a team to make it happen."
    Suvorov's funeral illustrated this principle (!), and it was a final testimony to the organization he had developed. His pallbearers could not get his casket through a narrow hallway in the chapel. As they tried to figure out what to do, some soldiers pushed their way past the priests and officials, declared, "Suvorov must pass everywhere!", lifted the casket above their heads (thus reducing the procession's width), and carried it through the hallway.
    On bureaucracies and large headquarters staffs: "Large staffs- small victories." (Tsouras, 1992, 402)
    Suvorov article in Military History by Russell Isinger
    Alexander Suvorov wrote his Science of Victory (Nauka Pobezhadt) for enlisted soldiers as well as officers. Suvorov recognized that victory depended on the morale, training, and initiative of the front-line soldier. Suvorov's own career easily places him in the top rank of history's great military commanders. He would have easily been a match for Alexander the Great or George S. Patton. (Patton was easily Suvorov's intellectual, if not spiritual, reincarnation.) He was probably more than a match for Napoleon or Frederick the Great. He not only got away with violating Sun Tzu's guidelines for waging war, he won victories by doing so. Philip Longworth (1965) summarizes his career, "He won far too frequently to be called lucky: he never lost."

    Few people outside of Russia know about Suvorov, but he is legendary in Russia. Russians revere Suvorov as Britons do King Arthur: "…one Russian legend has it that Suvorov never really died, that he rests in a deep sleep to awaken when Russia is threatened by grave military danger" (Menning, 1986).

    Both Suvorov and Stalin forbade their troops to retreat, but they used different methods to get them to obey. Stalin ordered "blocking units" to shoot soldiers who gave ground. Suvorov prevented retreats by instilling his troops with pride, morale, and self-confidence. The Russians under Suvorov never considered retreat because they knew themselves to be better than the enemy!

    Suvorov's ranking in military history

    Top rank: the greatest commanders of all time. Rarely if ever lost a battle, and usually won without losing many troops. Achieved seemingly impossible victories.
    Alexander III of Macedonia, "The Great."
    Alexander V. Suvorov
    Alexander the Great inherited a powerful military organization from his father, Philip II. Suvorov had to develop one, with Russian peasants as his raw material.
    Alexander the Great has the advantage of combining military and civil authority into one person: himself. He did not have to deal with the interference of incompetent sovereigns like Tsar Paul, nor was he answerable to nominal superiors like Potemkin. Suvorov achieved what he did despite such interference.
    Final choice: Alexander V. Suvorov, greatest military commander of all time.
    This is not to say that Alexander the Great would not have achieved what he did without his advantages, but he definitely had a head start on Suvorov. It is quite likely that neither could have beaten the other decisively had they been on opposite sides at any time in history. They thought alike and they inspired confidence and commitment among the soldiers they led.

    Subset: Possibly in the top rank, but not enough information Hannibal (lost only once, at Zama, largely because the Romans acquired his Numidian cavalry).
    Horatio Nelson: crushed French and Spanish fleets in overwhelming victories. Shorter track record than Alexander the Great and Marshal Suvorov
    George S. Patton, Jr. (intellectual reincarnation of Alexander the Great and of Suvorov: his principle of speed mirrored theirs, and he inspired confidence and high morale among his men)

    Second rank: famous commanders. Sometimes lost battles but usually won. Often sustained serious casualties.
    Napoleon Bonaparte (amazing victories, but he made serious mistakes on occasion, e.g. the invasion of Russia)
    Frederick II, "The Great," of Prussia (usually won but not always; heavy casualties eventually destroyed his army of veterans. Like Alexander the Great, he inherited a good army from his father.)
    Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington
    Helmuth Karl Bernhard, Graf von Moltke (1800-1891)
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    Bild: Aleksandr V. Suvorov


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    War nicht Gschingis Kahn der Mongole der grösste Feldheer.Er hatte doch das grösste Reich aller Zeiten das ganz Asien und halb Europa umfasste.


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    Zitat Zitat von CAR_DUŠAN
    War nicht Gschingis Kahn der Mongole der grösste Feldheer.Er hatte doch das grösste Reich aller Zeiten das ganz Asien und halb Europa umfasste.
    Suvorov und Khan kann man nicht miteinander vergleichen, Suvorov war ein Feldherr aber kein Eroberer. Whärend Khan ein Eroberer war. Suvorov kämpfte Schlachten und Kriege aber nicht um ein Reich zu schaffen, sondern um die Feinde des Russischen Zaren Reiches in die Knie zu zwingen. Wie viele Schlachten und Kriege hat Suvorov geschlagen, wie viele Khan? Suvorov hatt insgesamt mehr Schlachten und Kriege geführt. Suvorov hatt auch NIE eine schlacht oder Krieg verloren, whärend dschinghis khan auch niederlagen einstecken musste. Die Mongolen hatten auch nicht das größte Reich aller Zeiten, die Briten hatten das größte Reich aller Zeiten. Das Britisch Empire war auf allen Kontinenten präsent. Europa,Nordamerika,Weite Teile Afrikas,Indien und weitere Teile Asiens, Australien.

  7. #7
    jugo-jebe-dugo
    Zitat Zitat von Vuk
    Zitat Zitat von CAR_DUŠAN
    War nicht Gschingis Kahn der Mongole der grösste Feldheer.Er hatte doch das grösste Reich aller Zeiten das ganz Asien und halb Europa umfasste.
    Suvorov und Khan kann man nicht miteinander vergleichen, Suvorov war ein Feldherr aber kein Eroberer. Whärend Khan ein Eroberer war. Suvorov kämpfte Schlachten und Kriege aber nicht um ein Reich zu schaffen, sondern um die Feinde des Russischen Zaren Reiches in die Knie zu zwingen. Wie viele Schlachten und Kriege hat Suvorov geschlagen, wie viele Khan? Suvorov hatt insgesamt mehr Schlachten und Kriege geführt. Suvorov hatt auch NIE eine schlacht oder Krieg verloren, whärend dschinghis khan auch niederlagen einstecken musste. Die Mongolen hatten auch nicht das größte Reich aller Zeiten, die Briten hatten das größte Reich aller Zeiten. Das Britisch Empire war auf allen Kontinenten präsent. Europa,Nordamerika,Weite Teile Afrikas,Indien und weitere Teile Asiens, Australien.
    Das ist leider Falsch.Dschingis Kahn hatte das größte Reich aller Zeiten.Das hab ich schon oft gelesen.Alleine ganz Asien und halb Europa machen über 1/4 der ganzen Welt aus.

  8. #8
    Vuk

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    Zitat Zitat von Car Dusan
    Das ist leider Falsch.Dschingis Kahn hatte das größte Reich aller Zeiten.Das hab ich schon oft gelesen.Alleine ganz Asien und halb Europa machen über 1/4 der ganzen Welt aus.
    Da hast du was falsches gelesen, das Britische Reich war viel größer. Irgendwo hab ich das mit Dschinghis glaub ich auch schon mal gehört (im fernsehen glaub ich) aber es stimmt nicht.

    Fläche des Mongolenreiches: 19Mio km2
    Als Dschingis Khan starb hatte sein Reich eine Größe von 19 Millionen km² und war damit doppelt so groß wie die heutigen USA. Es reichte nun vom Chinesischen Meer im Osten bis zum Kaspischen Meer im Westen.
    klick

    Fläche des Britischen Reiches: 38Mio km2
    Zur Zeit seiner größten Ausdehnung (1921) umfasste das Empire etwa 38 Mio. km2 mit 450 Mio. Bewohnern ("The sun never sets on the British Empire")
    klick


    At its peak, the British Empire was the largest formal empire that the world had ever known. As such, its power and influence stretched all over the globe; shaping it in all manner of ways.
    British Empire.co.uk

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    War nicht Gschingis Kahn der Mongole der grösste Feldheer.Er hatte doch das grösste Reich aller Zeiten das ganz Asien und halb Europa umfasste.

    Nein! Das zweitgrösste:P


    Das Reich des Islam war das grösste Reich aller Zeiten,
    und Muhammed der grösste echte Führer aller Zeiten und das wird so bleiben.




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