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Osmanisches Reich: Das Massaker von Batak

Erstellt von Sonne-2012, 01.01.2014, 13:43 Uhr · 34 Antworten · 2.738 Aufrufe

  1. #21
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    Zitat Zitat von Kalampakiotis Beitrag anzeigen
    3000-7000 Tode?

    Peanuts


    Schaut mal, was die ach so tollen Osmanen auf Psara und Chios angestellt haben...
    Selbst 1 leben ist wichtig!

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    Das ist schon klar

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    The Turkish Atrocities in Bulgaria: Horrible Scenes at Batak
    J. A. MacGahan (The Daily News, August 22, 1876), pp.5-6

    Since my letter of yesterday I have supped full of horrors. Nothing has as yet been said of the Turks that I do not now believe; nothing could be said of them that I should not think probable and likely. There is, it seems, a point in atrocity beyond which discrimination is impossible, when mere comparison, calculation, measurement are out of the question, and this point the Turks have already passed. You can follow them no further. The way is blocked up by mountains of hideous facts that repel scrutiny and investigation, over and beyond which you can not see and do not care to go. You feel that it is superfluous to continue measuring these mountains and deciding whether they be a few feet higher or lower, and you do not care to go seeking for molehills among them. You feel that it is time to turn back; that you have seen enough.

    But let me tell you what we saw in Batak:- We had some difficulty in getting away from Pestera. The authorities were offended because Mr. Schuyler refused to take any Turkish official with him, and they ordered the inhabitants to tell us that there were no horses, for we had to leave our carriages and take to the saddle. But the people were so anxious that we should go that they furnished horses in spite of the prohibition, only bringing them at first without saddles, by way of showing how reluctantly they did it. We asked them if they could not bring us saddles, also, and this they did with much alacrity and some chuckling at the way in which the Mudir's orders were walked over. Finally we mounted and got off. We had been besieged all the morning by the same people who had blockaded us the night before, or who appeared to be the same, their stories were so much alike. We could do nothing but listen in pity to a few of them—for it would have taken all day to hear each separate tale of misery and suffering—and gave vague promises that we would do all in our power to relieve their misery upon our return to Constantinople. But diplomatic help is, alas! very slow. While ambassadors are exchanging notes and compliments inviting each other to dinner, discussing the matter over their coffee and cigars, making representations to the Porte, and obtaining promises which nobody believes in, these poor people are starving and dying. Many of them decided to seize this opportunity and accompany us to Batak, to visit their ruined homes, and others caught our bridle reins, determined to make us listen to their stories before we should start. One woman caught my horse, and held it until she could show me where a bullet had traversed her arm, completely disabling her from work, and this was only the least of her woes. Husband killed, and little children depending on that broken arm for bread; all of this told in a language so much like Russian that I could understand a great deal of it; so like Russian that I could easily have fancied myself amongst peasants of the Volga, or the denizens of the Gostinoidvor, Moscow. The resemblance is striking, and it is no wonder the Russians sympathise with these people.
    The Batak Massacre (1876) | Bulgarian Horrors | J. A. MacGahan | Turkish Atrocities | The W.T. Stead Resource Site

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    TURKISH ATROCITIES
    committed against Thracian Bulgarians

    From a poll conducted by
    Professor Dr Lyubomir Miletic
    on the ruin of the Thracian Bulgarians in 1913

    Sofia Press, 1987

    8. The Armagan Massacre

    Before the population that had fled at the battle of Ferrai headed for Bulgaria, some of them, mostly from Sicanli, stopping for a rest in the Armagan-Cesmesi valley near Kurbaalik in the Duganhisar mountains, was attacked by 200 Turkish soldiers who were about to set on fire and loot the only surviving Bulgarian village, Pisman (Pessani). The Turkish detachment, which had left the village of Badouren (Patara), attacked the people, first shooting, and then stabbing whoever they caught up with bayonets and daggers. Most of the victims were from Sicanli, as I myself was able to ascertain from travel permits and other documents I found on some of the refugees, some of which, still well preserved, I took with me (on December 1, 1913). In the end the Turks captured a number of women — about one hundred — whom they drove to the river Maritsa. This happened on September 25. The captives were first taken to Pisman, where they spent the night. The Turkish force set fire to the village and killed some old people who were still there. The next day some of the same force, recovered after the rest, went back to hunt down the population which had fled the village. After a short skirmish, the villagers retreated as their cartridges had finished, and the Turks managed to capture about 30 women and girls of Pisman. With a great deal of booty they took them to Kavadjik. Then Rousse's detachment, which had found out late about this, blocked their path and made a surprise attack on them near the Turkish village of Cukuren, dispersing them and freeing the unhappy women, and even taking some sheep and goats.

    I heard shocking details about the massacre in the Armagan valley in Ferrai, Dedeagach and Gumuljina, and as some people said that although two months had passed since then (25 September), the corpses of the victims, which included many children, still lay there unburied and also no commission had yet been to the 'Valley of Death1, as some called it, to establish exactly what had happened. I decided to go there to see for myself, even though it was winter and I would have to ride across a difficult terrain in the mountains over Duganhisar. And so on November 29, 1913 I set out from Dedeagach for Duganhisar via the village of Dervent, whence I set out on the next day accompanied by D.
    Turkish Atrocities Committed Against Thracian Bulgarians in 1913: From a ... - Google Books

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    Werde es in diesem Thread posten

    TURKISH ATROCITIES
    committed against Thracian Bulgarians

    From a poll conducted by
    Professor Dr Lyubomir Miletic
    on the ruin of the Thracian Bulgarians in 1913

    Sofia Press, 1987

    8. The Armagan Massacre

    Before the population that had fled at the battle of Ferrai headed for Bulgaria, some of them, mostly from Sicanli, stopping for a rest in the Armagan-Cesmesi valley near Kurbaalik in the Duganhisar mountains, was attacked by 200 Turkish soldiers who were about to set on fire and loot the only surviving Bulgarian village, Pisman (Pessani). The Turkish detachment, which had left the village of Badouren (Patara), attacked the people, first shooting, and then stabbing whoever they caught up with bayonets and daggers. Most of the victims were from Sicanli, as I myself was able to ascertain from travel permits and other documents I found on some of the refugees, some of which, still well preserved, I took with me (on December 1, 1913). In the end the Turks captured a number of women — about one hundred — whom they drove to the river Maritsa. This happened on September 25. The captives were first taken to Pisman, where they spent the night. The Turkish force set fire to the village and killed some old people who were still there. The next day some of the same force, recovered after the rest, went back to hunt down the population which had fled the village. After a short skirmish, the villagers retreated as their cartridges had finished, and the Turks managed to capture about 30 women and girls of Pisman. With a great deal of booty they took them to Kavadjik. Then Rousse's detachment, which had found out late about this, blocked their path and made a surprise attack on them near the Turkish village of Cukuren, dispersing them and freeing the unhappy women, and even taking some sheep and goats.

    I heard shocking details about the massacre in the Armagan valley in Ferrai, Dedeagach and Gumuljina, and as some people said that although two months had passed since then (25 September), the corpses of the victims, which included many children, still lay there unburied and also no commission had yet been to the 'Valley of Death1, as some called it, to establish exactly what had happened. I decided to go there to see for myself, even though it was winter and I would have to ride across a difficult terrain in the mountains over Duganhisar. And so on November 29, 1913 I set out from Dedeagach for Duganhisar via the village of Dervent, whence I set out on the next day accompanied by D.
    Turkish Atrocities Committed Against Thracian Bulgarians in 1913: From a ... - Google Books
    Hast wohl nichts besseres zu tun als ständig irgendwelche Massaker von Türken zu posten.

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    Zitat Zitat von Zeuge Hartzcores Beitrag anzeigen
    Hast wohl nichts besseres zu tun als ständig irgendwelche Massaker von Türken zu posten.
    Jetzt tust du unseren türkischen Usern hier Unrecht, weißt du es nicht, ich zitiere Erdogan


    1) "Die türkische Gemeinschaft und der türkische Mensch, wohin sie auch immer gehen mögen, bringen nur Liebe, Freundschaft, Ruhe und
    Geborgenheit mit sich. Hass und Feindschaft können niemals unsere Sache sein. Wir haben mit Streit und Auseinandersetzung nichts zu schaffen."

    2) Ein Muslim kann keinen Völkermord begehen. Gaza und Darfur soll man nicht vermischen.”

    Also bitte nichts negatives über die Türken

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    Jetzt tust du unseren türkischen Usern hier Unrecht, weißt du es nicht, ich zitiere Erdogan


    1) "Die türkische Gemeinschaft und der türkische Mensch, wohin sie auch immer gehen mögen, bringen nur Liebe, Freundschaft, Ruhe und
    Geborgenheit mit sich. Hass und Feindschaft können niemals unsere Sache sein. Wir haben mit Streit und Auseinandersetzung nichts zu schaffen."

    2) Ein Muslim kann keinen Völkermord begehen. Gaza und Darfur soll man nicht vermischen.”

    Also bitte nichts negatives über die Türken
    Du hetzt doch nur, dir geht nur um Türken bashing, mehr nicht.

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    Du hetzt doch nur, dir geht nur um Türken bashing, mehr nicht.
    Geschichtliche Tatsachen zu posten und diese mit Quellen zu untermauern ist nicht hetzen.

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    Zitat Zitat von Zeuge Hartzcores Beitrag anzeigen
    Du hetzt doch nur, dir geht nur um Türken bashing, mehr nicht.
    Du hetzt doch nur, dir geht nur um __________ bashing, mehr nicht.

    Bitte Nation und den dazugehörigen thread einsetzen, passt immer.

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