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Die Balkan-Connection des 9/11

Erstellt von lupo-de-mare, 17.07.2004, 09:20 Uhr · 144 Antworten · 19.015 Aufrufe

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    naja, natürlich kein wort darüber wieso einer der madrid-attentäter ausgerechnet in belgrad gefasst wurde. gegenpropaganda der feinsten sorte. also das übliche bild.

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    Zitat Zitat von BalkanSurfer
    naja, natürlich kein wort darüber wieso einer der madrid-attentäter ausgerechnet in belgrad gefasst wurde. gegenpropaganda der feinsten sorte. also das übliche bild.
    [web:8db1cfb1a4]http://www.islambosna.ba/[/web:8db1cfb1a4]

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    naja, soll ich jetzt serbianunity, balkanpeace, srpskapolitika und die anderen propagandaseiten hier zeigen?
    ich frage mich was du mit deinen kindischen reaktionen zeigen willst? der endgültige beweise für deine geistige verwirrtheit?

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    Zitat Zitat von BalkanSurfer
    naja, natürlich kein wort darüber wieso einer der madrid-attentäter ausgerechnet in belgrad gefasst wurde. gegenpropaganda der feinsten sorte. also das übliche bild.
    Was soll denn darin das Problem sein. Alle Kriminellen und Terroristen reisen auf dem Balkan mit falschen Namen.

    Kosovo und verhaftete Albaner Banditen wie Gafur Adili, "Luli" Berisha usw. bezahlten für einen neuen Namen und Pass nur ca: 500 $!

    Und eine Reise über Belgrad aus Bosnien heraus, ist der logische Reise Weg!

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    [quote="Partibrejker"]
    Zitat Zitat von BalkanSurfer
    n
    [web:9902951bbc]http://www.islambosna.ba/[/web:9902951bbc]
    Gute Anwort!

    Ich finde es ziemlich peinlich für Bill Clinton und Europäische Politiker, das sie mit den Islamischen Terroristen der UCK zusammen arbeiteten, obwohl die Bin Laden Achse zu den UCK Verbrecher Kartellen bestens bekannt waren in 1998.

    THE SCOTSMAN November 30, 1998, Monday
    US TACKLES ISLAMIC MILITANCY IN KOSOVO BY:

    Chris Stephen In Pristina

    THE United States has asked Kosovo's ethnic Albanian rebels to distance themselves from so called Mujahideen fundamentalists, amid reports that Islamic extremists are arriving to fight in this war-torn province.

    http://www.balkanpeace.org/wtb/wtb06.html

    Und besonders peinlich schon die damaligen CIA Lügen, welche Bill Clinton*** vertrat, das die KLA UCK nichts mit dem Drogen Schmuggel zu tun hat.

    Late last spring, Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) sent a letter to President Clinton requesting an assessment of KLA drug trafficking. The president responded quickly, telling Grassley in a June 15 letter that he had demanded an intelligence assessment from the CIA and the DEA on Kosovar drug trafficking. "Neither agency," the president wrote, "has any intelligence that indicates the KLA has either been engaged in other criminal activity or has direct links to any organized crime groups." Clinton did acknowledge that crime groups "have contributed at least limited funds and possibly small arms to the KLA." He promised to "monitor" narcotics distribution there in the future.

    http://www.balkanpeace.org/cib/kam/kosd/kosd02.shtml

    *** Bill Clinton empfing bekannte Drogen Bosse direkt im Weissen Haus, was die damaligen Chef Ermittler der DEA und des FBI outeten, als sie pensioniert waren.

    Bill Clinton wurden mit dem Drogen Schmuggel auch in Albanien in Verbindung gebracht, weil der US Botschafter Josef Limbrecht (verstorben im Mai 2002 bei Peskopje in Nord Albanien, bei einem Islamischen Terroristen Ausbildungs Camps) direkt im Hafen von Durres, Drogen Ex- und Import leitete und organisierte.

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    Jihadists Find Convenient Base in Bosnia

    By Sherrie Gossett
    CNSNews.com Staff Writer
    August 17, 2005

    (CNSNews.com) - Terrorists who previously targeted the U.S. are now in Bosnia, where they have access to a "one-stop shop" of jihad training camps, weapons and illegal Islamic "charities" -- all at the doorstep of Europe, terrorism experts said.

    "[Convicted terrorist] Karim Said Atmani recently returned to Bosnia after being released early from French prison for 'good behavior,'" terrorism expert and author Evan Kohlmann said.

    Atmani, a Moroccan, was linked to the "millennium bomb plot" and convicted by a French court of colluding with Osama bin Laden. He has been linked to the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), an organization responsible for airplane hijackings and subway bombings in France.

    "This is very disturbing," said Kohlmann. "Atmani promised he would wage jihad until the end. That doesn't mean until a plea deal, or early release; it means until death or victory."

    Also finding haven in Bosnia is Abu el Maali, who like Atmani, was a foreign national who fought in the Bosnia war. El Maali was later accused by French authorities of attempting to smuggle explosives in 1998 to an Egyptian terrorist group plotting to destroy U.S. military installations in Germany. He was also accused of leading terrorist cells in Bosnia, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    "This activity is very significant," said Kohlmann. "Senior members of the former Muslim Brigade and their top commanders are still there, and they're still active."

    The Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation (AHF), a charity that was later found by the U.S. Treasury to be underwriting terrorist operations including al Qaeda, shut its offices in Bosnia after the U.S. announcement but reopened under the name "Vazir." The new organization was registered as an "association for sport, culture and education."

    In 2002, the U.S. Treasury Department reported that the Bosnia office of Al-Haramain was linked to Al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya, an Egyptian terrorist group that was a signatory to bin Laden's Feb. 23, 1998, fatwa -- or religious edict -- against the United States.

    Cybercast News Service viewed videotape shot by Kohlmann of activity at the former Sarajevo offices of Al-Haramain. "All they did was white-out the old sign," said Kohlmann.

    Cybercast News Service has also obtained a video that terrorism analysts say depicts an active jihad training camp in Bosnia-Herzegovina, a region previously described by analysts as an ideal gateway for terror missions into Europe. See Video

    The video, which is over four minutes in length, shows outdoor maneuvers, explosives training and training inside what appears to be a school gym. Exercises in hostage-taking are also shown.

    Cybercast News Service obtained the footage from Gregory R. Copley, president of the International Strategic Studies Association. The footage, said to have been shot before autumn 2004, was first aired in May 2005 before an audience of senior military officials during the Strategy 2005: The Global Strategic Forum held in Washington, D.C.

    The presence of active jihadist camps in Bosnia-Herzegovina was also confirmed by attorney and counter-terrorism expert Darko Trifunovic, who previously served as a diplomat in the foreign service of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    Kohlmann said that the main camps used during the war have been closed, and a different tactic for jihad training has emerged: disguising them as youth camps. "These days, usually the kind of jihad camp you'll see in Bosnia and other countries are so-called 'youth camps.'" They are usually led by a former member of the mujahadeen, someone with military experience, and perhaps a fundamentalist cleric, said Kohlmann.

    "They take young people into the hills or even a national park and conduct makeshift jihad training. As ridiculous as it sounds, they've found it's very difficult to track this sort of thing."

    Christopher Brown, research associate with the Transitions to Democracy Project at the Hudson Institute, echoed the report. "A lot of these camps are very mobile," he said. "Bosnia has a lot of rugged territory where such camps can be set up temporarily."

    The idea that there are no jihadist camps in Bosnia and radical Islam has not gained any foothold there, as some analysts suggest, is "ridiculous," according to Brown. He points to the raising of two Waffen-SS divisions under the encouragement of the mufti of Jerusalem during World War II, up to the spread of Wahhabism by the Saudis beginning in the 1960s and 1970s.

    "Al Qaeda cells were set up in Bosnia in the early 1990s by Ayman al Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's right-hand man, and bin Laden was said to visit the area twice in the mid-1990s," Brown added. "Iran was very involved in supporting the Islamist separatist movement in Bosnia, and Hezbollah was doing training there in the 1990s."

    Training also takes place inside youth centers and school gyms, according to Trifunovic.

    The goal is a network of like-minded cells as opposed to having the sort of permanent camp that would fuel an active frontline, said Kohlmann. "It's not that surprising. This sort of thing goes on in the U.S. as well," he said.

    "Only a very small minority of Bosnians are attracted to this," said Kohlmann. "This is primarily a foreign phenomenon -- mostly consisting of Syrians, Egyptians and Algerians."

    From the time of the Bosnian war, local Muslims experienced friction with the foreign jihadists and opposed the idea of an Islamic state, as well as condemned their atrocities, said Kohlmann. That friction continues.

    Marko Attila Hoare, research fellow at the Faculty of History at the University of Cambridge, cautions against arriving at broad conclusions based on the reports of jihad camps. "The evidence suggests that talk of 'active jihadist camps' in Bosnia has been greatly exaggerated," he said.

    "Over 10 years since several thousand Islamic radicals fought in the Bosnian war of the 1990s, Bosnia -- unlike New York, Madrid and London -- has yet to experience a single Islamist terrorist outrage. Nor have any Bosnian Muslims been implicated in Islamist terrorist acts elsewhere. Al Qaeda tried and failed to turn Bosnia into a jihadist base; the moderate version of Islam practiced there is not conducive to Islamism," said Hoare.

    Statistics compiled before the war and in 2004 suggest that the majority of Bosnian Muslims do not attend mosque regularly and have a predominantly European secular outlook regarding politics.

    Hoare has previously described the Palestinians, Chechens and "other enslaved Muslim peoples" as "caught between the Scylla of colonial oppression and the Charybdis of Islamofascism."

    Hoare has contended that "there can be no freedom for Muslim peoples without the defeat of the Islamofascists and everything they stand for; and there can be no defeat of the Islamofascists without liberty for all Muslim peoples."

    Hoare told Cybercast News Service: "It is entirely likely that foreign Islamists are still trying to recruit disaffected Bosnian Muslims, but these latter are likely to make less willing recruits than are members of the Muslim communities of Western Europe."

    Hoare's analysis is in line with that of French political scientist Giles Keppel, who in the book "Jihad: The Trail of Political Islam" described the Islamists' attempt to graft jihad onto Bosnian operations as a failure.

    Defense analyst Frederick Peterson believes that to a certain degree, talk of majorities not favoring the Wahhabist strain of Islam is a "deceptive argument."

    "There doesn't need to be a majority to be a threat. When push comes to shove, they will identify with the side most like them and either be silent, harbor or abet," Peterson said. "We know that the mujahadeen in Bosnia were al Qaeda and Iranian-sponsored, and they are still there today."

    "We have terrorist operatives who have targeted the U.S. back in a relatively un-policed region that offers one-stop shopping in conventional arms and open spaces for training, ideological support, recruitment drives and funding," said Kohlmann. "It's a very disturbing phenomenon."

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20050817a.html

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    Zitat Zitat von Partibrejker
    Jihadists Find Convenient Base in Bosnia

    By Sherrie Gossett
    CNSNews.com Staff Writer
    August 17, 2005

    (CNSNews.com) - Terrorists who previously targeted the U.S. are now in Bosnia, where they have access to a "one-stop shop" of jihad training camps, weapons and illegal Islamic "charities" -- all at the doorstep of Europe, terrorism experts said.

    "[Convicted terrorist] Karim Said Atmani recently returned to Bosnia after being released early from French prison for 'good behavior,'" terrorism expert and author Evan Kohlmann said.


    Atmani, a Moroccan, was linked to the "millennium bomb plot" and convicted by a French court of colluding with Osama bin Laden. He has been linked to the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), an organization responsible for airplane hijackings and subway bombings in France.


    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20050817a.html
    Bosnien war damals schon als Brutstätte, für Islamische Terroristen und Flugzeug Entführungen und Sprengstoff Attentate bekannt.

    Und dann noch einer der ersten und ältesten Quellen, über die UCK Bosnische Bin Laden Verbindung zu Osman Bin Laden mit Quellen wie von Janes usw.

    SIRIUS: The Strategic Issues Research Institute

    Benjamin C. Works, Director

    718 937-2092; www.siri-us.com;



    --Celebrating Chaos Theory Since 1987--



    Feb. 9, 1999

    Subject: Articles on KLA-Kosovo & Osama bin Laden

    NOTE: This archive intended for research use, contains copyrighted material intended "for fair use only."

    NOTE: Dragan Ivetic, 3rd-year law student at University of Illinois College of Law, collected and contributed the majority of articles in this file.

    Index

    1. Jane's Intelligence Review; Feb. 1, 1995; The Balkan Medellin
    2. Scotsman, Nov. 30, 1998; US Tackles Islamic Militancy in Kosovo
    3. AP Nov. 29, 1998: Report: Bin Laden operated terrorist network based in Albania
    4. Balt. Sun; March 6, 1998; KLA Seizes Area near Capital
    5. FT Worth Star Telegram; Aug. 25, 1998; Osama: Avoid Civilians
    6. Inter Press Service, August 12, 1998, UN Plan for Kosovo Stalled
    7. Jerus. Post; Sept. 14, 1998; Kosovo seen as new Islamic bastion
    8. AP Nov. 14, 1998; Self-declared Bin Laden aide found guilty in Albania slaying
    9. The Times (London), Nov. 29, 1998; Osama-KLA-Albania
    10. Sunday Times (London), March 22, 1998; Iran Moves in to Albania
    11. Letter: USA Today; Sept. 1998; KLA also uses Terror
    12. The Times, Nov 26, 1998; US alarmed as Mujahidin join Kosovo rebels
    13. Tanjug; Dec. 16, 1997; Polish Reports of Mujaheddin training in Bosnia

    http://www.siri-us.com/backgrounders...KLA-Osama.html

  8. #58
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    lupo wäre der pefereckte serbische kanzler...

    meine stimme hat er schon

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    Zitat Zitat von method
    lupo wäre der pefereckte serbische kanzler...

    meine stimme hat er schon
    http://www.siri-us.com/backgrounders...KLA-Osama.html ist aber eine sehr gute und excellente Quelle.

    Du kannst mir glauben, das ich auch mehr über die Serben schreiben würde---aber leider gibt es hier nicht so viele Quellen.

    Ich bin sowieso der Einzige, der auch gegen die Top Mafia wie den Karic Clan hier schon mal schrieb. Selbst die Albaner greifen die Themen nicht auf: Serbische Mafia!

    Zitat Zitat von Partibrejker
    Jihadists Find Convenient Base in Bosnia

    By Sherrie Gossett
    CNSNews.com Staff Writer
    August 17, 2005


    The Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation (AHF), a charity that was later found by the U.S. Treasury to be underwriting terrorist operations including al Qaeda, shut its offices in Bosnia after the U.S. announcement but reopened under the name "Vazir." The new organization was registered as an "association for sport, culture and education."

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20050817a.html
    Diese üble Hilfs Organisation der Saudis wurde inzwischen auch in Albanien geschlossen, aber operiert mit neuen Namen.

    Hier der funktionierende link

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20050817a.html

    Interpol/Siri über die Verbindung von Ben Laden, Drogen-UCK/Thaci

    Der hier genannte Autor Ben Works ist Leiter des Strategischen Research Institutes der Vereinten Staaten. www.siri-us.com
    wo man noch viel mehr Reports teilweise Internationaler Geheimdienst wie Janes www.janes.com findet, über die UCK Mafia Verbindungen zu Ben Laden, zum Drogenhandel und zum Internationalen Terrorismus bis zu den Reports über den Ex-Präsidenten von Albanien und Mafia Boss: Salih Berisha. siehe www.siri-us.com

    Training an der Front

    Auf der Suche nach dem Netzwerk von Ussama bin Laden werden die USA auch auf die UCK stoßen. von martin schwarz, wien
    Ben Works, der Direktor des US-amerikanischen Instituts für strategische Studien, glaubt schon einen Kurswechsel bei Präsident George W. Bush bemerkt zu haben: »Bush hat die bekanntesten Lobbyisten für die UCK in seiner Umgebung wie etwa Bob Dole kaltgestellt.« Ob der ziemlich erfolglose ehemalige Präsidentschaftskandidat und Senator Dole tatsächlich die Gunst George W. Bushs verloren hat, ist allerdings schwer zu überprüfen.

    Ziemlich sicher aber ist, wer demnächst bei der US-Regierung in Ungnade fallen könnte: »Wenn sich die Hinweise auf enge Verbindungen zwischen der UCK und dem al-Quaida-Netzwerk von Ussama bin Laden weiter verdichten, wird Bush die UCK auflösen«, sagt Works im Gespräch mit der Jungle World. Seit den Terror-Attentaten in New York und Washington versuchen die USA, mögliche Sympathisanten bin Ladens in aller Welt auszuforschen. Während der Konstruktion einer »weltweiten Allianz gegen den Terror« werden wohl besonders alte Allianzen auf dem Balkan in Frage gestellt werden müssen.

    ...........

    http://www.nadir.org/nadir/periodik...2001/42/12a.htm



    Story of the Day 2001-10-24
    Interpol has information that the Albanian terrorists have links with Al Qaida organization and its leader Osama Bin Laden, London-based newspaper the Independent reads. The Independent reports that Interpol’s investigation team was claiming that Osama Bin Laden was related to the Albanian criminal gangs, which have wide network of trafficking in weapons and people, prostitution and racketeering throughout Europe. Interpol also has information that recently people from the Albanian criminal circles met with leaders of the Algerian terrorist organisations. The Albanian police reported that Osama Bin Laden was also present at that meeting. According to information from Interpol, one of Bin Laden’s military commander was appointed for head of the elite terrorist units of the Kosovo Liberation Army, during the Kosovo conflict in 1999.


    http://www.southeasteurope.org/subp...s_word=interpol

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    schätzungen der ausländischen islamisten in bosnien liegen bei ca 400. ich bin VÖLLIG beruhigt was dieses thema angeht, denn in bosnien konnten sie ihre strukturen wesentlich schwerer aufbauen als im kosovo und sogar als in einigen westlichen staaten. ihre organisationen wurden immer wieder geschlossen, die personen verhaftet. interessant ist auch die tatsache, dass die meisten gelkauften bosnischen pässe in der RS verkauft wurden und eben nicht in der föderation.
    naja, der eine staat kümmert sich um seinen dreck, der andere feiert seine kriegsverbrecher wie mladic und karadzic.
    ich weiß lupo, dir ist das keine erwähnung wert.
    aber bei dir bin ich mir inzwischen sicher, dass du vom bosnienkrieg genau so wie parti nicht viel weißt, da ihr nur zwei kleine teile des ganzen themas kennt. srebrenica und die ausländischen kämpfer, eben die themen, die euch passen.
    oder weiß irgendeiner von euch, dass sogar in mostar die ersten zivilistengruppen von serbischen einheiten erschossen wurden? wahrscheinlich nicht, passt ja nicht ins weltbild

    aber lupo, du beweist deine "sachlichkeit" indem du den link zu einer seite als "antwort" bezeichnest. ich empfehle dir die serbian unity seiten oder balkanpeace. da fühlst du dich mit den anderen propaganda-ministern sehr wohl. da auch parti etwas zu unterentwickelt war um sachlich auf aussagen einzugehen. so ein link ist ja eine sooo tolle antwort

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