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Jagd auf Ratko Mladic

Erstellt von TITO, 19.07.2004, 15:08 Uhr · 1.063 Antworten · 46.745 Aufrufe

  1. #791

    Registriert seit
    Zitat Zitat von albaner
    mladic gilt als kriegsheld bei den serben , die halten den irgendwo versteckt , man sollte mehrere nato-soldaten zu einer suchaktion schicken und mit den leuten die ihn schützen kurzen prozess machen ( abknallen).

    richtig,das wäre dann halb serbien

  2. #792
    Avatar von Monte-Grobar

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    Ihr Albaner seid echt hirngefickt.... :?

  3. #793

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    Welchem politischen Kontext entspricht das jetzt Frau Albanesi?
    Solch einen Unsinn wie du hier von dir gibst.

  4. #794

    Re: Die unterirdischen Labyrinthe unter Belgrad

    Zitat Zitat von lupo-de-mare
    Das ist ein hoch interessanter link, dessen Infos teilweise schon in der Presse waren, als 2 Soldaten einen unterirdischen Eingang in die geheimen Bunker Anlagen bewachten und dabei erschossen wurden

    Diese unterirdischen Anlagen, sind bestens ausgestattet von den Serbischen Miiltärs und dort sollen sich Kriegs Verbrecher aufhalten..

    "Labyrinth City Under Dedinje"


    Saturday, November 13, 2004

    (FBIS Translated Text)

    The two guard soldiers -- Dragan Jakovljevic and Drazen Milovanovic -- and their tragic deaths, which caused a big stir in the public (and also among the political and particularly the military leaders of Serbia-Montenegro) has once again put in the spotlight the story about the big (underground) shelter at Topcider (Belgrade district) that the unfortunate youths had been guarding. This story has been told many times but it has never been completed.

    The truth be told, this is not the first time that the media has talked about this facility. All sorts of stories, even some that were almost incredible, were told about it. The first -- very brief -- information about the facility was presented to the public after Josip Broz Tito's death on 4 May 1980. At the time there were those who claimed that the House of Flowers, in which Tito was buried, was linked by an underground canal to a special military shelter. It was claimed that the shelter was located in the immediate vicinity of the residence that accommodated "the son of all Yugoslav mothers." An entire theory was developed. According to this theory, in the event of a devastating military attack on Dedinje (another Belgrade district) and the surrounding areas (at the time it was still believed that Yugoslavia could get involved in a nuclear war), Tito's body would have been moved "by a single touch of a button" from its tomb to the shelter and thus preserved.

    As we moved in time away from the date of Tito's death, this almost absurd story was rarely repeated. It was replaced however with a science fiction-style link between this shelter and not only Tito's residence, but the villas of other most important officials of former Yugoslavia.

    This newspaper has obtained from several reliable sources, who wished to remain anonymous, an exclusive story about the famous shelter and warehouse. This is the first time in many decades that the truth about this story is presented.

    "Such a facility does indeed exist. No one has ever wanted to talk about it since it is a state secret." This is how our informants, who insisted on anonymity, began their story. "If we exclude the people who worked directly on its maintenance, an extremely small number of people have had the opportunity to see this facility and become acquainted with it directly. Written records were strictly and precisely kept for each of these persons. What is quite interesting however is that a far greater number of people stood in front of the entrance to this facility, watched museum and other exhibits, and enjoyed a good meal and drink, completely unaware that only a couple of meters away from them, perhaps even at the place from which they were served food, was an elevator that could take them deep into the Earth's womb."

    Thus, the entrance is located in Dedinje, not Topcider. This is the true location of this facility. The Topcider location is just the exit, which has also been skillfully masked. The exit houses an ordinary military equipment warehouse; the army has thousands of such warehouses.

    No one knows what is hidden behind the walls of this military warehouse.

    Journey to Center of Earth

    This is just an above-ground section that masks the entrance and is open to the public. You can get to six underground floors via an elevator. The lowest level is several tens of meters below the ground.

    It is quite vast and houses offices, rooms, and bedrooms. The offices are equipped in the same fashion as any ordinary above-ground office. Since the entire facility was supposed to accommodate members of the Supreme Command and the ancillary services, which were staffed by a large number of people, for several months, we can only speculate on the exact number of rooms and offices.

    Sketch of underground bunker

    This area leads to a floor housing the communication centers and rooms used for storing equipment, food, heating oil, and water.

    From this point you can get to a fascinatingly huge hall, which is the same size as the world's biggest subway stations. This is actually a seemingly endless tunnel in which a human being appears to be tiny. The whole area is lit perfectly. It is wide enough for trucks to drive through. As you move down this tunnel, you from time to time encounter extensions. They contain tracks for ventilation and other tubes. There are dozens and dozens of smaller roads leading to unknown destinations. Physically, it is impossible to tour everything, particularly because everything is operated at the touch of a button. And the door opens....

    The facility has completely independent sources of power, water, and heating. The floors above the tunnel (that do not run in parallel with the entire length of the shelter), which are closer to the ground level, serve as a "safety zone" of sorts. They house additional ventilation equipment and air filters, water tanks, and anything else necessary in case of a nuclear attack.

    Built in Stages

    In order to avoid any possibility of someone revealing the actual location of the premises and the tunnel, as the shelter was a big secret, the structure was built in stages. The construction involved cleared construction companies and the army. No one, however, knew what they were building. Workers and contractors were often moved from one location to another, and were sometimes asked to do only a small part of the job they had been assigned. New teams arrived, and they would also come from some other location. After so many transfers no-one could even imagine what they were engaged in.

    At one point, the army's top echelon, which kept a detailed record of everything, fit all of the pieces of the puzzle together: they finally built a true city underground.

    The shelter is the deepest somewhere at its beginning. When you go underground, it is actually tremendously difficult to find your way through all of the rooms, hallways, and floors at the shelter itself, not to mention pinpointing what your location would be above the ground.

    Time will certainly reveal and demystify the exact and precise coordinates of the tunnel. Most of the tunnel does run in a straight line, but there are some irregularities. For example, its deepest point is at the location where the living quarters and office premises are supposed to be. When you go up to the "subway tunnel" and keep walking up, after a long while you will actually get from the third underground floor directly to the ground, that is, the entrance.

    This is understandable, as the already expensive construction process would have cost even more had there been an equal number of floors along the width and the length of the shelter. There was no need for this, either, because it was envisaged that the supreme commander and his colleagues would never go beyond "level 6" in case of an attack.

    What also contributed to this was the geography of the underground terrain, which is why no one can precisely say where the three floors by the exit are "lost." As you move along the tunnel, you do not get the impression that it is going downhill or uphill.

    Visitors Log

    There were also stories that the construction began in the middle of 1980s. Our informants claim that this is not true. Unfortunately, no one can say with certainty when construction officially began. It can be said with a high degree of certainty, however, that the entire underground complex was built between 1960 and 1970. The scope and the specific nature of the entire project, as well as the phased construction, required a somewhat longer period of time for construction.

    We could possibly get more precise information if we were able to obtain the visitors log. You had to have dozens of military seals of approval to be able to get a permit just to go down to the shelter. Seals were obtained at several military locations. Only with such documentation would someone get an opportunity to visit the premises. Depending on the military rank of the visitor, certain levels were off-limits.

    A wide range of specific professions had to be involved to maintain so much machinery. All elements of the machinery had to be in operation at all times. For example, a communications engineer would only go as far as the sixth floor, where the communications center was located. He had no idea that there were more floors, not to mention knowing what was on them. Likewise, personnel in charge of maintaining the air filters were able to enter only the first three underground levels.

    Although our informants only mention the entrance and the exit (but do not exclude the very likely possibility of other secret doors in this underground maze) and their locations, there certainly must be a myriad of other doors that were used by maintenance personnel. They simply were unaware of others.

    Such a pattern has remained in effect to date and the members of the guard brigade also probably do not know what lies underneath. Our informants assume that neither Mrksic nor Colic, as the commanders of the brigade, knew this, not to mention ordinary soldiers.

    Unhidden Purpose

    This facility would have been used as the main command point of the then JNA (Yugoslav National Army) and the Territorial Defense, as well as of the supreme commander, Josip Broz Tito.

    Given the depth of the facility and the thick layers of concrete it would be able to resist direct attacks of the most powerful nuclear missiles. None of the lives of the people we have mentioned would have been endangered.

    The shelter was earmarked for Tito and was located in the immediate vicinity of his residence in Tolstojeva Street, but he never came by to visit it.

    According to certain claims, Slobodan Milosevic was not aware of the details of this secret, either, although the shelter was practically under his nose. We may conclude from this that he, the same as Tito, never came to visit it.

    There are also those who believe such a facility is actually a symbol of how far human folly can go.

    If we were to accept this reasoning, then the state could open this shelter for the public. Perhaps it will create a veritable tourist attraction. A Skadarlija underneath Dedinje.

    (Box, p 25) Used Only Once

    It was written, but hidden from the public, that the shelter was used only once. This happened in mid-March 1991, when the famous session of the former SFRJ's (Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) Presidency was held. The meeting was chaired by Borisav Jovic. But not even the Presidency members entered the premises, as the session was held in the so-called above-ground section of the shelter.

    This was the first and the only session of the then Supreme Command that was held in the shelter. Its participants -- Stjepan Mesic, Janez Drnovsek, Vasil Tupurkovski, Bogic Bogicevic, Branko Kostic, and others -- did not actually know exactly where they were.

    Part of the public that watched the documentary footage of this historic session remembers that all the jackets of the leaders present were buttoned up and that they were wearing special extra-thick military jackets.

    They were cold because the venue for the session had been changed at the last minute. There simply was not enough time to properly heat the above-ground section, even with the strongest electrical heaters.

    (Description of Source: Belgrade Vecernje Novosti in Serbian -- high-circulation tabloid)
    Könnte sein das Mladic und Karadzic auch darunter befinden...... also es könnte sein!

  5. #795

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    Karadzic ist nicht in Serbien.

  6. #796
    Avatar von lupo-de-mare

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    Re: Ratko Mladic in VALJEVO!

    Zitat Zitat von yellena

    Weiß jemand mehr über seine Tochter? Weshalb hat sie sich umgebracht??

    Ein Freund von Blut und Sliwowitz

    von Norbert Mappes-Niediek

    Als seine Soldaten in den Wäldern die männlichen Bewohner von Srebrenica erschossen, lud der serbische General Ratko Mladic den Kommandeur der Uno-Truppe zu einem Glas Sliwowitz in sein Quartier. Im Raum stand angebunden ein lebendiges Schwein, und während die Offiziere tranken, kamen Soldaten mit Messern und stachen das Schwein ab, dass das Blut umherspritzte. "So gehen wir mit unseren Feinden um", sagte Mladic zu dem Niederländer. In der brutalen Szene versteckt sich der Antrieb des meistgesuchten Kriegsverbrechers in Europa. Seine Absichten hat der Hauptverantwortliche für den 7 800-fachen Mord von Srebrenica immer fast zwanghaft mitgeteilt.
    Toller Artikel von Norbert Mappes-Niediek, der einen sehr guten Ruf hat. Über seine Tochter, warum die sich umbrachte, weiss ich leider Nichts.

  7. #797

    Registriert seit
    Zitat Zitat von LaLa
    Karadzic ist nicht in Serbien.
    Dann halt in BiH!!!

  8. #798

    Registriert seit
    Zitat Zitat von Nikola-Zubic-Zrinski
    Zitat Zitat von LaLa
    Karadzic ist nicht in Serbien.
    Dann halt in BiH!!!
    man wie oft den noch er ist in der karibik und schlürft kokosmilch am strand

  9. #799

    Registriert seit
    Zitat Zitat von Princip_Grahovo
    Zitat Zitat von FYROM-Albanian
    Уби Зaкoлjи дa жиптap, хрвaт муслиман не пoctojи

    ubi zakopji da siptar, hrvat musliman ne postoji

    was soll das heissen?
    Lasst den Albaner, Kroaten und Moslemen in Frieden heisst es :wink:
    Nene, es steht.

    Lass dich weiterhin von Albanern, Kroaten und Bosnier stöpseln.

  10. #800
    Avatar von lupo-de-mare

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    Alleged Mladic supporter removed from plane bound for Moscow


    BELGRADE, Serbia -- Authorities reportedly prevented Marko Lugonja, one of those charged with aiding fugitive Ratko Mladic, from leaving the country on Thursday (21 September). He had boarded a plane bound for Moscow but was taken off at the last minute at the Belgrade airport. The trial against Lugonja and eight other defendants is to begin at the Belgrade regional court next week. (B92 21/09/06)

    Als er nach Moskau fliegen wollte, wurde er in letzter Minute aus dem Flugzeug geholt und verhafet.

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