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Erstellt von Amphion, 08.06.2010, 22:42 Uhr · 326 Antworten · 16.397 Aufrufe

  1. #51

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    Zitat Zitat von Krosovar Beitrag anzeigen
    gibt schon zig threads darüber.
    es gingt auch mehr um den Artikel, datiert auf den Mai 2010.
    Also ein sehr aktueller Artikel.

  2. #52

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    Zitat Zitat von Amphion Beitrag anzeigen
    als angehender Iatros, der einen Eid auf die Ethik des Apoll schwören wird, solltest du, dein Verhalten und deine Inhalte betrachtend, den Unterschied zwischen Diagnose und Mantik kennen.
    Ich wiederhole: solltest du. Jedoch offensichtlich nicht. Für mich haben deine Posts inzwischen, leider, einen Grenzwert von Null erreicht. Dabei könntest du es besser anbieten.
    ich lebe im 21 Jahrhundert und glaube nicht an solche Märchen, ich halte was von Ethik daher sage ich dir das, was jetzt in sich nichts damit zu tun hat worauf du anspielst.

    das hat aber nichts mit dem Thema zu tun

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    Zitat Zitat von ooops Beitrag anzeigen
    ich lebe im 21 Jahrhundert und glaube nicht an solche Märchen, ich halte was von Ethik daher sage ich dir das, was jetzt in sich nichts damit zu tun hat worauf du anspielst.
    toll, du hast den richtigen Beruf gewählt, daß du als angehender Iatros nicht daran glaubst, daß es wichtig ist, das Leben des Menschen und seine Gesundheit im Blick zu haben.

    Ich denke, solche Stümpern würde ich nicht zu meinen Ärzten erklären.

  4. #54

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    Zitat Zitat von Amphion Beitrag anzeigen
    toll, du hast den richtigen Beruf gewählt, daß du als angehender Iatros nicht daran glaubst, daß es wichtig ist, das Leben des Menschen und seine Gesundheit im Blick zu haben.

    Ich denke, solche Stümpern würde ich nicht zu meinen Ärzten erklären.
    und nun hast du somit meine Mitschuld an die Opfer von Jasenovac bestätigt?

  5. #55

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    Zitat Zitat von ooops Beitrag anzeigen
    und nun hast du somit meine Mitschuld an die Opfer von Jasenovac bestätigt?
    Junge, du hast ja echt einige Schrauben locker.
    Diesen Mist halte ich nicht mehr aus, ich bin offline.

  6. #56

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    Durch den Thread springen förmlich die wahren Gesichter vieler User aus. Erschreckend welche Gestalten hier rumlaufen die das grausamste Konzentrationslager verharmlosen oder sich einfach über den Thread aufregen wo von einer 1/2 Mil massakrierter Zivilisten berichtet wird. Bei der RS sind die gleichen User gross am tönen Genozid Gebilde Kosovo Völkermord. Ihr seit euch gar nicht im klaren was da geschehen ist 41-45. Gott wird euch dafür bestrafen wie ihr indirekt über die Opfer hergeht. Wartet mal ab. Der Amphion hat mit einen Streich ungewollt eure wahren Gesichter aufgedeckt.

    Danke für den Thread von diesem schwarzen Kapitel wird im Westen kaum bis gar nicht berichtet.

    Mögen sie in frieden Ruhen.

    Gruss

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    Zitat Zitat von Niko Beitrag anzeigen
    Danke für den Thread von diesem schwarzen Kapitel wird im Westen kaum bis gar nicht berichtet.
    äh ... also wenn du davon nichts wusstest heisst es nicht, dass das Thema "im Westen" unbekannt ist

  8. #58
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    Zitat Zitat von Niko Beitrag anzeigen
    Durch den Thread springen förmlich die wahren Gesichter vieler User aus. Erschreckend welche Gestalten hier rumlaufen die das grausamste Konzentrationslager verharmlosen oder sich einfach über den Thread aufregen wo von einer 1/2 Mil massakrierter Zivilisten berichtet wird. Bei der RS sind die gleichen User gross am tönen Genozid Gebilde Kosovo Völkermord. Ihr seit euch gar nicht im klaren was da geschehen ist 41-45. Gott wird euch dafür bestrafen wie ihr indirekt über die Opfer hergeht. Wartet mal ab. Der Amphion hat mit einen Streich ungewollt eure wahren Gesichter aufgedeckt.

    Danke für den Thread von diesem schwarzen Kapitel wird im Westen kaum bis gar nicht berichtet.

    Mögen sie in frieden Ruhen.

    Gruss
    JASENOVAC RESEARCH INSTITUTE


    Last Updated: January 5, 2008.
    DENIAL OF SREBRENICA GENOCIDE UNDERMINES CREDIBILITY OF THE "JASENOVAC RESEARCH INSTITUTE"
    Note of Caution: The Washington's United States Holocaust Museum should distance itself from this organization, and people should exercise caution when dealing with this propagandist Srebrenica genocide denial group that celebrates war criminals.
    The New York based "Jasenovac Research Institute" is a Serbian nationalist-run organization which describes itself as "committed to establishing the truth about the Holocaust in Yugoslavia and dedicated to the search for justice for its victims." However, Bosniak Muslim victims (including women and children) of Jasenovac are conveniently ignored by their research, but that's another story. The website features photos of innocent children who died in the Ustasha's run concentration camp - but there is no mention that those innocent victims belonged to all ethnicities, not just Serb. After all, 6 million Jews perished in the Holocaust. The people behind the Jasenovac Research Institute deny the Srebrenica genocide and celebrate Slobodan Milosevic.

    The Jasenovac Research Institute recently re-published a book titled: "The Crimes of the Fascist Occupants and their Collaborators against the Jews in Yugoslavia." In the Foreword of this book, this Serbian nationalist-run organization is calling the findings of the International Criminal Tribunal (ICTY) in the Hague "fraudulent." As you know, the ICTY findings concluded that the 1995 Serb massacres of Bosniak Muslims in and around Srebrenica constituted genocide. The Jasenovac Research Institute calls those findings fraudulent, thus far denying genocide. Here is a quote from the foreword of the re-published book (reviewed by Christopher Deliso) , quote:


    "It should be noted that the old ideals of rigor in documentation have long since been lost. A look at any of the modern Yugoslavia’s war crimes trials shows a frantic zeal to uncover ever more evidence and, though numerous snafus have emerged in the Hague due to its presentation of erroneous or even willfully fraudulent information, few whether in the media or the 'international community' take much notice of the inconsistencies."
    These types of Srebrenica Genocide denial claims have seriously shattered the credibility of the "Jasenovac Research Institute. But that's not all; continue reading...

    Institute ran by Srebrenica Genocide Deniers

    The main contributor to the Institute, and one of its main board members, is Dr. Milan Bulajic. Not surprisingly, Mr Bulajic also denies Srebrenica genocide (source: external link to the Serbian extremist web site
    ), quote:

    "Dr. Milan Bulajic said for Glas Javnosti that High Representative for Bosnia and Herzegovina Paddy Ashdown and the President of the Institute for War Crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina Dr. Smail Cekic want (at any price) to manipulate science to prove that the Serbian Army committed genocide in Srebrenica."
    Mr. Bulajic was the Director of the "War Crimes Commission" of the FRY, an organization formed by Slobodan Milosevic in early 1990s in Serbia to "prove" the crimes the world has comitted against the Serbs. Mr Bulajic published most of his books and works during the war era, with characteristic Serb opinion at the time. The publisher for most of his book is listed as: "The Ministry of Information of the Republic of Serbia".

    Dr. Darko Trifunovic, another Srebrenica genocide denier, is a member of the Board of Directors of the Jasenovac Research Institute (more about him here
    ), quote:

    "On the page 34. of that report, Trifunovic concludes his 'analysis' of the number of Bosniak men and boys who disappeared during the events surrounding the Bosnian Serb take-over of the United Nations ‘safe area’ of Srebrenica with the 'finding' that Armed Forces of the Republic of Srpska (VRS) might have executed only less than 100 of 'Muslim soldiers'".
    Another director of the Jasenovac Research Institute is Srebrenica genocide denier Milo Yelesiyevich. He is the author of the book about: "Ratko Mladic: Tragic Hero" in which he denied Srebrenica genocide and celebrated indicted war criminals Gen Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic.

    And here is what Barry Lituchy - self-titled "Holocaust Research Director" of the Jasenovac Research Institute - thinks of Slobodan Milosevic, quote:
    "When I heard the news that Slobodan Milosevic had died I did not want to believe it. I did not want to believe that evil had triumphed over good, or that the evil that had been done to this brave and beautiful man could have finally killed him... But you can take solace in the fact that Slobo died a martyr's death... He is the most famous and most courageous Serb of our time... As I said before, he lived and died for us and for a better world. I know you are proud of him. I feel the same way." [11 March 2006, "To The Family of Slobodan Milosevic"]
    It is obvious that the people behind this organization have as much credibility as Adolph Hitler. The sad part is they are a driving force behind the Jasenovac Research Institute.

    Nazi Croatia's Ethnic Make-up


    The territory of the Independent State of Croatia included two constituent units of former Yugoslavia, Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina, with a total population of about 6.3 million. More than half of the population, or 3.3 million, were ethnic Croats (Catholics). The 1.9 million Serbs (Orthodox) were the largest ethnic minority. Other minorities included approximately 700,000 Bosniaks (Muslims), 40,000 Jews, and 30,000 Roma (Gypsies).

    PHOTO: The Bosniak Muslim family being taken away to the Jasenovac concentration camp by the Ustasha's collaborationist regime during the 2nd World War. [Bosnjaci.net Magazine]
    Numbers of Jasenovac Victims
    (Serbs, Bosniaks, Jews, Roma, Croats, and others)


    Bosniaks and Croats were also victims of Jasenovac. According to the U.S. Holocaust Museum:

    "The Ustaša authorities established numerous concentration camps in Croatia between 1941 and 1945. These camps were used to isolate and murder Serbs, Jews, Roma, Muslims [Bosniaks], and other non-Catholic minorities, as well as Croatian political and religious opponents of the regime."

    Jasenovac Research Institute claims that 300,000 to 700,000 Serbs died in Jasenovac - the numbers challenged even by the United States Holocaust Museum, quote:
    "The most reliable figures place the number of Serbs killed by the Ustasha between 330,000 and 390,000, with 45,000 to 52,000 Serbs murdered in Jasenovac." [USHMM and Jewish Virtual Library]
    In 1998, the Bosniak Institute published SFR Yugoslavia's List of war victims from the Jasenovac camp. The list contained 49,602 total victims at Jasenovac with 26,170 Serbs, 8,121 Jews, 5,900 Croats, 1471 Roma, 787 Bosniak Muslims, 6,792 of unidentifiable ethnicity and the rest others.


    According to another historian, Dr Vladimir Zerjavic, over 12,000 Bosniaks and Croats perished in Jasenovac. One might also read Dr Nihad Halilbegovic's study about the Bosniak victims of Jasenovac concentration camp (currently, only the Bosnian language version is available - Bosnjaci u Jasenovackom Logoru, 502 pages, ISBN: 9789958471025 can be purchased at Interliber, popular Bosnian book sale web site).

    According to the Jewish Virtual Library, the precise number of Jews murdered in Jasenovac is not known, but estimates range between 8,000 and 20,000 Jewish victims; and the estimate of the number of Romani (Gipsy) victims is beteween 8,000 and 15,000 who perished in Jasenovac.



    DARKO TRIFUNOVIC: SREBRENICA GENOCIDE DENIER


    Update: "You may ask again Dr. Trifunovic to clarify why he was expelled from the diplomatic service of Bosnia and Herzegovina in 2001. (only after expulsion he became self proclaimed expert on terrorism writing mostly against Bosnia and Herzegovina) ..." - commented by Edin.

    PHOTO: Darko Trifunovic, disgraced Srebrenica genocide denier and falsifier of history, in this undated photo. Courtesy New York -based Bosnjaci.net Magazine.
    Srebrenica genocide denial is the most dangerous obstacle to the lasting peace in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and yet - it is a 'weapon' of choice for hate-mongerers. One of them is Darko Trifunovic wholikes to think of himself as a "terrorism expert" or "specialist in terrorism and security studies" and is obsessed with only one specific kind of terrorism: "Islamic terrorism." However, a closer look at his activities reveals that he is far from being expert on anything, and can most accurately be described as a fringe conspiracy theorist and disgraced denier and justifier of Genocide in Srebrenica - nothing more, nothing less.

    Tip: As an alternative to inaccurate, out-dated, and out-of-context taken analysis of Srebrenica victims' numbers used by deniers, please read our Frequently Asked Questions, including Srebrenica Numbers (Quick Facts), and DNA Analysis from the ICMP.


    Mr Trifunovic's manufactured stories about "Islamic terrorism in Bosnia-Herzegovina" and his obsession with Islamic terrorism in general is rather biased and one-sided; he conveniently avoids to acknowledge judgments against the Serb terrorists (Generals Stanislav Galic and Dragomir Milosevic) who were sentenced by the International Criminal Tribunal to lengthy prison sentences for terrorism that claimed lives of 12,000 citizens of Sarajevo - including 1,500 Sarajevo children. In the 1992-95 war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb side was responsible for 85% of the crimes, but that doesn't stop Mr Trifunovic from falsifying facts, manufacturing stories, and justifying genocidal crimes of former Serb leader Radovan Karadzic (see Radovan Karadzic and Srebrenica Genocide).

    The Association of Bosniaks in the Netherlands has reacted angrily at Mr Trifunovic's denials of Srebrenica genocide and has encouraged survivors of genocide to file a lawsuit against Mr Trifunovic. Srebrenica genocide denial is a hate crime in many European countries which Mr Trifunovic regularly visits to feed media and government officials with his hatred inspired propaganda (there is a protest letter available in the Bosnian language here).

    Recently, the Congress of North American Bosniaks (CNAB), issued a letter to the organizers of the "11th European Police Congress" requesting Darko Trifunovic to be excluded from the forthcoming Congress. In this letter, CNAB stated, quote:

    One of the speakers scheduled for the Panel Session “European Counterterrorism Strategies - Detection, Financing, Prosecution” is Dr. Darko Trifunovic from Belgrade. The Congress of North American Bosniaks (CNAB)... is sternly protesting to the organizers of the 11th Congress, requesting that Dr. Darko Trifunovic is excluded from the forthcoming Congress.... Dr. Trifunovic is the author of the scandalous “Report About Case Srebrenica Case (the first part)”... which he conveniently omitted from his Congress' biography.
    Of course, Darko Trifunovic ommitted this information from his "biography" attempting to hide his Srebrenica genocide denial background. His report was discredited as a fraudulent attempt to deny the facts and was rejected by the international courts and by the Office of the the High Representative for Bosnia-Herzegovina. In the letter, CNAB explains, quote:
    On the page 34. of that report, Trifunovic concludes his 'analysis' of the number of Bosniak men and boys who disappeared during the events surrounding the Bosnian Serb take-over of the United Nations ‘safe area’ of Srebrenica with the 'finding' that Armed Forces of the Republic of Srpska (VRS) might have executed only less than 100 of "Muslim soldiers".
    Moreover, Trifunovic went even further with his Srebrenica genocide denial and justification of killings by concluding that, quote:
    As a consequence, the remaining figure in the missing list would be the number of Muslims soldiers who were executed by Bosnian Serb forces for personal revenge or for simple ignorance of the international law. It would probably stand less than 100.
    As an alternative to Darko Trifunovic's make-belief stories, one might read Srebrenica Genocide Questions and Answers: Responding to the Growing Assault on Truth and Memory, containing factual judgments from the International Criminal Tribunal at the Hague, the International Court of Justice, and other credible sources. Of course, Mr Trifunovic conveniently avoids acknowledging judicial facts issued by the highest international courts.
    There you have it. Darko Trifunovic's techniques of attempting to present himself as credible individual seem rather childish, because no survivor of genocide will sit quiet while Mr Trifunovic is humiliating victims of Srebrenica genocide. As a conspiracy theorist by occupation, Mr Trifunovic should know better, and he should start disclosing "full resume" about his background. As CNA rightfully protested, quote:
    It is mind-boggling that such an 'expert' in, and proponent of, the genocide denial and the psychological warfare of hate mongering could have been invited to speak to European policemen, interior and justice ministers, members of parliaments about the “European Counterterrorism Strategies". He who himself is an 'expert' defender of Serbian terrorism of violating all applicable international conventions.... He is part of the notorious Belgrade state-security apparatus and locales, admitted even by the Serbian Government members to be behind Serbia's active violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Mladic in Belgrade etc.). With other readily available details about his other extremist activities and involvements, one has to ask: what is the real agenda here?
    Srebrenica Genocide Blog: DARKO TRIFUNOVIC, PART 2


    Komisch das so viele Serben im Jasenovac Research Institute beschaeftigt sind.

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    ZUM KOTZEN
    WIEDERMAL VIELE FASCHISTEN IM THREAD UND ISLAMISTEN

    kotz kotz kotz

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    Zitat Zitat von _LAV_ Beitrag anzeigen
    naja was mit kroaten und bosniaken zur zeit von jugoslawien nummero 1 und danach in nummero 2 passierte...!?
    wuerde gern mal ne serbisches agieren darueber hier im forum lesen!
    erwaehnt mal was 1945 in bleiburg, maribor usw. passierte!!!
    ich selber bin jude und das rumgeheule mit jasenovac geht mir tierisch aufn wecker!!!



    franjo tudjman war ein antifaschist, schon immer. lese mal geschichtsbuecher statt hier so nenn hetzthread zu oeffnen und den kroaten schwul an die gurgel gehn zu wollen!
    damit bewegst du dich wie ne "töfftöff-gazelle" aufm laufsteg, die ausrutscht und sich einen abbricht! tudjman war einer der typen die mitverantwortlich sind fuer den tod von blaz kraljevic dem bosnischen fuehrer der rechten hos truppen.

    apropos flagge... sind die cetniks nicht auch mit ihren "4C-s" faschisten und verbuendete der deutschen gewesen, diese serbische fascho flagge heute gehoert dann genauso verboten!!!

    ?Das Nazi-Reich stürzte Kroatien in den Faschismus? / Nachricht

    KLAR WAR TUDJMAN EIN FASCHIST

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