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Mazedonien schlägt Griechenland Namensänderung vor

Erstellt von Hamëz Jashari, 11.03.2012, 05:51 Uhr · 698 Antworten · 26.670 Aufrufe

  1. #541
    Avatar von Heraclius

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    Zitat Zitat von Zoran Beitrag anzeigen
    Habe ich doch schon lang, du Antwortest ja nie

    Musst mal den Spam durch suchen.



    Was anderes als griechische Inschriften sind in Makedonien nicht gefunden worden. Das ist die Antwort.

    Heraclius

  2. #542
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    Das British Museum wird auch von Griechenland finanziert.




    Hippokrates


    Wahrscheinlisch haben wir dem britischem Museum Teile des Parthenon Frieses als Bestechungsgeld gegeben.

  3. #543
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    Natürlich werden sie das, aber Griechen werden sie deswegen trotzdem nicht.


    Du wirst immer ein Jugoslawe ohne antike Geschichte bleiben, egal was in der Antike war.

    Heraclius

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    Kla, Hellenen ich lach mich weg






    Hier, der alte Weise.

    Heraclius

  5. #545
    Yunan
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    Alle


    Beweise erstmal das alle Museen die Makedonen als Griechen bezeichnen, so wie du das gerne haben würdest und ohne hilfe und Schmiergelder der Hellenischen Republik niemals haben würdest.
    Wieso sollten wir dir irgendwas beweisen? Wer bist du, dass wir das tun müssten, Bulgare?

  6. #546
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    Nur der Adel war kulturell griechisch und das auch nicht seit Anbeginn. Deswegen spricht man auch von Hellenisierung.

    Wir haben Antike Überlieferungen in den klar gesagt wird das die Griechen die Makedonen nicht verstanden, und das die Makedonen untereinander in Muttersprache kommunizierten.




    Dein Dilemma ist, dass die Antike für dich irrelevant ist. Jugoslawen gab es in der Antike auf dem Balkan noch nicht. Du wirst als Slawe nie wie die Griechen eine eigene antike Geschichte haben, finde dich damit ab.

    Heraclius

  7. #547
    Yunan
    Zitat Zitat von hippokrates Beitrag anzeigen
    Zoranovski,

    wo bleibt das Museum, welches euch Slaven mit den antiken Makedonen in Verbindung bringt?




    Hippokrates
    Siehst du, wie er das ignoriert?

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    Siehst du, wie er das ignoriert?
    Vielleicht "sucht" er noch...




    Hippokrates

  9. #549
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    Siehst du, wie er das ignoriert?



    Was bleibt ihm schon anderes übrig? Oder kennst du etwa so ein Museum?

    Heraclius

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    Greece Paid Journalists $130 Million to promote "greekness of Macedonia"
    Tuesday, 15 December 2009

    During 1989 to 1993 from secret funds of the Greek Foreign Ministry headed by Andonis Samaras, Greek journalists received $130 million dollars (US) to promote the "greekness of Macedonia"!

    Although these funds were originally intended for external promotion (read disinformation), they, according to the testimony of former Prime Minister Constantinos Mitsotakis, ended up in pockets of Greek journalists.

    - All of the funds were in black plastic bags, like those black trash bags you see, filled only with 5,000 bank notes. There were never checks, it was always cash. The money was mainly for propaganda over Macedonia's name, but instead of going abroad, this propaganda was directed towards the inside, our country - said Mitsotakis in front of a commission summoned to clarify the case.
    The payment of huge lump sums coincided with the independence of Macedonia and the strengthening of internal propaganda and the so called "macedoniazation" in Greece.

    This scandal, which was first actualized by Athens based Eleftherotypia was burried in 1994 though it re-emerged once again after Andonis Samaras was elected as leader of New Democracy, which suffered a defeat by PASOK in the fall elections.
    Samaras had been dismissed in 1992 as a Foreign Minister by then-Prime Minister Mitsotakis, who, like Papandreou has now himself assumed the foreign ministry.

    The investigation was completed without conclusions. These secret payments were investigated by Mitsotakis’ successor, the Greek Foreign Ministry, Government and current president Karolos Papoulias. The Greek Government issued no information and closed the investigation in the name of "higher national interests".

    The dilemma whether the Greek Government bribed journalists as well as publishers across the country to publish material that would promote Athens’ agenda hangs in the air.
    Andonis Samaras publicly acknowledged large amounts of money were paid to publishers, journalists, even local officials, adding all money were used for “national useful purposes”.

    It is indicative that all documents were destroyed prior to Mitsotakis’ takeover of Greece’s FM from Samaras - on April 13, 1993. Samaras himself attested that the documents were destroyed on March 17 that year. The only thing left are the total amounts and recorded statements - the money were distributed by (Manolis Kalamidas close to Samaras and Dimitris Avramopoulos, a man of trust to Mitsotakis).

    The scandal itself surfaced following the collapse of the Mitsotakis government in October 10, 1993. To make things more interesting, the Foreign Minister of the new government of PASOK - after Mitsotakis and Samaras - was none other than the current present President of Greece Karolos Papoulias!
    Papoulias engaged a United States attorney, former judge, who practically discovered the secret funds. The investigation never revealed the names of journalists and news organizations that were at the receiving end of these payouts.

    According to documents from the investigation on March 10, 1994 Mitsotakis before the Commission confirmed that there were secret funds from the MFA, adding funds also became available from banks and other large companies. Since taking office, Mitsotakis described the situation in the MFA as "bad" adding “presently we have only 40-48 million drachmas (220 thousand dollars), while large sums of money are directed to unknown persons without the appropriate paperwork”.
    Mitsotakis explained the funds were distributed by the Minister, and controlled by three member commission appointed by the Minister. All documents, if any, were destroyed twice annually.
    The former Greek prime minister asked Samaras to explain where the money went. Samaras never provided a concise answer, saying the money were spent on “Advertisement”.



    Mitsotakis testified that he "personally knows journalists who received cash from the Government”. On the question to further explain how this was done, Mitsotakis provided further details: "There were bags of money. They were in black plastic bags, like those used in trash bins. Filled with 5,000 bills. All payments were in cash only, no checks. The money was mainly for propaganda over Macedonia's name, but instead of spending the money abroad, the propaganda was aimed inside."

    Mitsotakis had knowledge that some of the money were intended for specific journalists to build Samaras’ political image. This current leader of New Democracy, Samaras, on April 21, 1994 before the committee denied that any funds were given to journalists in order to build himself up. Asked where did the huge amounts of unregistered payments gone, he said "all the payments for practical purposes had been placed under item “information”.
    In Greece, the law entitles the minister to dispose of secret funds for the costs of "national interest" and how they will use these funds depends on the Minister's "patriotism".
    To all future 'journalists': move to Greece. The pay is good, you never have to write anything, all information comes pre-packaged. //Valentina Trajkovska ; N.M.
    year
    planned payment
    paid to Journalists ($132m)
    1989
    $12,2 million
    $18 million
    1990
    $11 million
    $11,3 million
    1991
    $13,8 million
    $27,8 million
    1992
    $22,6 million
    $41,1 million
    1993
    $23,9 million
    $34, 4 million


    MINA Breaking News - Greece Paid Journalists $130 Million to promote "greekness of Macedonia"


    Nein, nein die Griechen verplempern kein Geld um das angeblich "griechische" an Makedonien zu propagieren





    Hahaahahahaahahaha, ich liebe Deine Quellen, wenn Dir die Luft aus geht!


    MINA


    HAhahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahah ahaahahahaahah
    ahaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a




    Man kann Dich auf die nette und aufschlussreiche weise, wie alex281290,


    entgegentretten, was mir zu blöd wäre obwohl ich froh bin, daß es auch einen gibt der es so erklärt oder auf meine Weise



    Du Muschi!


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