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Montenegrinisch soll offizielle Amtssprache werden

Erstellt von Schiptar, 01.08.2007, 10:39 Uhr · 131 Antworten · 9.773 Aufrufe

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    Montenegrinisch soll offizielle Amtssprache werden

    Montenegro's official language will be Montenegrin

    31 July 2007 | 13:14 | Source: Beta, Tanjug

    PODGORICA -- The Montenegrin Parliament's Constitutional Council has submitted a draft for the country's new constitution. Parliamentary Speaker Ranko Krivokapić said that the draft still contained the main differences from earlier draft proposals, related to main political questions, such as the official language and the status of the Orthodox Churche.

    “The official language of Montenegro will be Montenegrin,” Krivokapić said, adding that there will be no negotiations on that issue.

    Krivokapić told reporters after the council meeting that “negotiations” between the ruling parties and opposition regarding the constitutional proposal will be possible until the adoption is scheduled.

    The opposition is expected to give a statement regarding its stance on the proposal today.

    The constitutional proposal cannot be introduced in parliament for debate until all officials have had at least 15 days to look at the draft, Krivokapić said.

    That means a meeting of the Montenegrin Parliament could be scheduled no sooner than August 21, he said, adding that it is more likely that the parliament will wait until September to reconvene.

    Krivokapić said that if two-thirds of the parliament's officials support the proposal, a referendum for its adoption could be announced.

    He reminded that the council has not been working with all members in attendance since officials from the opposition left after their proposal for making the meetings public was denied.

    Krivokapić said that it was strange that the opposition was boycotting, since such meeting were not open to the public in any other country.


    Symbols will remain, church and state to be separate


    The Montenegrin national flag

    The proposal adopted by Montenegro's Constitutional Council looks to maintain all state symbols as they are currently, and to keep church and state separate.

    The proposal states that Montenegro is a civil, democratic, ecological and socially just state.

    Montenegro's coat-of-arms will remain the golden two-headed eagle with a lion on its chest, the flag will remain red with the coat-of-arms in gold in the center, and the national anthem will remain "Oj, svijetla majska zoro."

    Along with Montenegrin being the official language, Cyrillic and Latin writing will be equally official, and minorities in municipalities where there is a larger population of the ethnic groups will be able to use their native languages officially.

    “Montenegrin citizens cannot be persecuted or extradited to other countries, except in accordance with Montenegro's international obligations,” the draft states.

    The constitutional proposal calls for the direct election of the Montenegrin president to a five year term with the a maximum of two mandates.

    Only a Montenegrin citizen that has been living in Montenegro for at least ten of the last 15 years can run for president, the draft states.

    Quelle: B92
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    Usvojen predlog ustava Crne Gore

    31. jul 2007. | 08:04 -> 17:38 | Izvor: B92

    Podgorica -- Ustavni odbor Skupštini Crne Gore predao predlog novog ustava, jezik je crnogorski, a verske zajednice odvojene od države. Na osnovu predloga, u službenoj upotrebi biće crnogorski jezik, važiće postojeći državni simboli, a verske zajednice, koje se ne pominju pojedinačno, odvojene su od države. Službeni jezik u Crnoj Gori zvaće se crnogorski, rekao je predsdnik parlamenta Ranko Krivokapić i naglasio da o tome ne može biti pregovora.

    Predlog novog crnogorskog ustava biće dostavljen parlamentu u ponedeljak pošto je većinom glasova usvojen u Ustavnom odboru, bez prisustva opozicije, čiji su predstavnici napustili sednicu.

    Po dostavljanju predloga, skupština treba da zakaže sednicu u roku od 15 dana, a ako predlog novog ustava ne bude usvojen dvotrećinskom većinom, o njemu će se izjašnjavati građani na referendumu.

    Predsednik parlamenta Ranko Krivokapić, koji je i predsednik Ustavnog odbora Skupštine, koji je utvrdio predlog novog ustava, kazao je prethodno da su u predlogu ustava ostale razlike iz nacrta tog akta, koje se odnose na ključna politička pitanja, naziv jezika, status crkve.

    On je dodao da su u Predlog ustava ugradjeni ključni predlozi Venecijanske komisije i drugih međunarodnih organizacija.


    Zastava Crne Gore

    Opozicione stranke nisu bile zadovoljne jer sednica odbora nije bila otvorena za javnost, ali su naveli da su i dalje otvoreni za dijalog o kompromisnim rešenjima.

    Srđa Brajović iz Pokreta za promene rekao je da vlast želi jednopartijski ustav. "Oni žele da nametnu ustav kroz referendum koji će biti kvazipatriotski i nelegitiman. To je fingiranje demokratije i nametanje ustava, protivno potrebama i stabilnosti Crne Gore", kaže on.

    Opozicija nije podnela svoj predlog ustava niti amandmane na postojeći predlog, ali je najavila koordiniranje aktivnosti.

    Quelle: B92

  2. #2
    bosmix
    das freut mich für schwarzwald:iconbiggrin:

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    und was ist der Unterschied zwischen "serbisch" und "montenegrisch"

  4. #4
    Gast829627
    Zitat Zitat von T1TT0L4R0CC4 Beitrag anzeigen
    und was ist der Unterschied zwischen "serbisch" und "montenegrisch"
    es gibt keinen...die sprache ist serbisch und die religion serbisch orthodox aber all dies wollen die muschies um djukelanovic ändern und damit montenegro ins abseits manövrieren .....dies alles wurde ohne die opposition im paralament besprochen und ich meine auch durchgesetzt....daran merkt man wer das sagen hat in montenegro....bestimmt nicht das volk!!!

  5. #5
    bosmix
    Zitat Zitat von Legija Beitrag anzeigen
    es gibt keinen...die sprache ist serbisch und die religion serbisch orthodox aber all dies wollen die muschies um djukelanovic ändern und damit montenegro ins abseits manövrieren .....dies alles wurde ohne die opposition im paralament besprochen und ich meine auch durchgesetzt....daran merkt man wer das sagen hat in montenegro....bestimmt nicht das volk!!!


    LÜGNER!!!!!!!!!


    das volk hat in einer demokratischen wahl abgestimmt für die unabhängigkeit von schwarzwald

    das wurde sogar vom heutigen bosnien beauftragten lajcak überwacht, und vor den vereinten natinionen in new york für sauber erklärt.

    p.s. hat serbien eigentlich noch was von der schönen adria

    naja donau ist auch schön.

  6. #6
    Gast829627
    Zitat Zitat von bosmix Beitrag anzeigen
    LÜGNER!!!!!!!!!


    das volk hat in einer demokratischen wahl abgestimmt für die unabhängigkeit von schwarzwald

    das wurde sogar vom heutigen bosnien beauftragten lajcak überwacht, und vor den vereinten natinionen in new york für sauber erklärt.

    p.s. hat serbien eigentlich noch was von der schönen adria

    naja donau ist auch schön.

    es heisst schwarzer berg und net schwarzwald


    und wenn wir meer brauchen dann holen wir es uns nach hause

  7. #7
    bosmix
    Zitat Zitat von Legija Beitrag anzeigen
    es heisst schwarzer berg und net schwarzwald


    und wenn wir meer brauchen dann holen wir es uns nach hause


    SCHWARZWALD ist also zu recht unabhängig, weil du mir keine gegenanalyse gestellt hast.




    Schööööööönnnnn......


    p.s

    wie wollt ihr denn euch das meer nachhause holen?

    etwa so:


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    Zitat Zitat von T1TT0L4R0CC4 Beitrag anzeigen
    und was ist der Unterschied zwischen "serbisch" und "montenegrisch"
    Montenegrinisch ist Ijekavisch, nicht Ekavisch, wie die serbische Standardsprache.

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    Compromise Unlikely to Silence Row over Montenegro’s Language

    15 05 2007 New proposal to call the language “Montenegrin - Serbian” may just pass parliament but will not satisfy Serb or Montenegrin nationalists.

    By Bojana Stanisic in Podgorica


    Montenegro’s ruling coalition and the opposition Movement for Change say they have come up with a formula to solve the years-long row over what to call the national language.

    As a result, the country’s new constitution will call the official language “Montenegrin-Serbian” or a “Montenegrin, Serbian”.

    The two sides believe this verbal formula will find acceptance among at least two-thirds of parliamentary deputies, which is the threshold needed to adopt the various articles of the new constitution.

    To outsiders, the dispute appears bizarre, as the argument revolves around the name of the language rather than its content.

    Actual differences between the language spoken by Serbs and Montenegrins are minimal, concerning little more than local variations, many believe.

    But the word Serbian has become increasingly unacceptable in recent years to some Montenegrins, who believe it offends Montenegro’s sense of identity.

    As a result, some opposition parties remain strongly opposed to the current compromise and will not allow the language debate to go away, whatever the new constitution says.

    Montenegro’s parliament is finely balanced. Of the 81 members, 41 are members of the ruling coalition of the Democratic Party of Socialists, DPS, and their junior partners, the Social Democrats, SDP.

    The Movement for Changes holds another 11 seats, making a total of 52 in favour of the new compromise formula about the language.

    That leaves them one vote short of the two-thirds majority they need - which Ferhat Dinosa, of the Democratic Union of Albanians, is happy to supply.

    As an Albanian speaker, Dinosa has little interest in the squabble about whether the national language is called Serbian, Montenegrin or Serbian-Montenegrin. He is ready to vote for any solution “if it would be useful”, he said. “If in the grand finale my vote is required, I will probably vote for it,” he told Balkan Insight.

    That does not please the opposition Liberal Party, however, which has campaigned for Montenegrin independence since the early 1990s - and for a national language called Montenegrin.

    Nor does the compromise satisfy an even bigger constituency among the Serbs and pro-Serbian members of the opposition, which wanted Montenegro to remain in unity with Serbia - and to speak Serbian.

    The same rift is replicated in academic and linguistic circles. Scholars from the school of the Serbian language and South Slavic literature at the Faculty of Philosophy in Niksic are fiercely divided on the matter of the title of the official language in the new constitution.

    Some scholars believe the official language can only be Montenegrin, others that it should be Serbian, while several support the compromise of Montenegrin-Serbian.

    Montenegrin citizens are equally divided. Some say they speak Serbian, some Montenegrin and others say they speak Serbo-Croatian, the old name for the language in communist Yugoslavia.

    The dispute over the title of the language dates back to the early years of the current decade, when the separation of Montenegro and Serbia first became a hot issue.

    Under the incumbent constitution, in effect since 1992, the official language in Montenegro is Serbian, albeit with the specific ijekavica pronunciation.

    The first official change occurred in 2004, when the school course previously called “Serbian Language and Literature” was renamed “Native Tongue and Literature”.

    After Montenegro gained independence in 2006, the movement to establish a Montenegrin language grew in force. The first draft for the new constitution duly described the official language as Montenegrin.

    However, the large Serbian and pro-Serbian opposition stood firmly against this change, making it clear an agreement on those lines was impossible.

    The Movement for Changes, whose support brings the ruling coalition close to the two-thirds majority it needs in parliament to pass a new constitution, has been keen to bridge the divide.

    The reformist party, which takes little interest in debates on national differences, believes Montenegrin-Serbian is a good solution, acceptable to all and offensive to none.

    “This formula does not violate the rights of any group,” the Movement’s spokesman, Koca Pavlovic, told Balkan Insight.

    High-ranking officials of the DPS, including Montenegro’s president, Filip Vujanovic, agreed.

    “I pledge [support] for the Montenegrin language,” said Vujanovic recently. “But I have also concluded that two-thirds of the parliament cannot support that solution, which is why we should try and find a compromise.”

    A DPS deputy, Ivan Kalezic, said his party was prepared to support the solution in the interest of citizens, though the DPS doubted whether the Serbian opposition was willing to do the same. “It is obvious that the Serbian parties are not ready to compromise,” claimed Kalezic.

    That, indeed, looks like a fact. The main pro-Serbian parties, the Serbian List, the Democratic Serbian Party, the People’s Party and the Socialist People’s Party all insist the official language in Montenegro should be called Serbian alone.

    They are equally firm is their stance that they won't support the current compromise on the national language, quoting the 2003 census results according to which 63.9 per cent of Montenegrin citizens said they spoke Serbian.

    “We will not agree to Montenegrin-Serbian … because it is only seemingly a compromise, which in fact is aimed at neutralising the Serbian language in Montenegro,” said Budimir Aleksic, a deputy for the Serbian List.

    A People’s Party deputy, Savo Djurdjevac, agreed. “We absolutely refuse any compromise,” he told Balkan Insight.

    On the other side of the political fence, the Liberal Party is just as adamant. “We will not agree to dualisms and compromise because it will only cause new divisions in sovereign Montenegro,” a Liberal Party spokeswoman, Enisa Harovic, told Balkan Insight.

    Bosniak representatives are not content with the compromise solution, either. This is because it takes no account of their demand for Bosniak to be proclaimed an official language in the constitution as well. “Without [mention of] a Bosnian language, it’s a flawed solution,” Purisic told Balkan Insight.

    The compromise formula has also got academics at loggerheads. Professor Vojislav Nikcevic, director of the Institute for Montenegrin Language and Philology, told Balkan Insight the alternative solution was “a disaster”.

    “Such a solution … has no political or scientific justification,” he maintained. “The Montenegrin language has its specifics when compared to Serbian and these two languages should not be mixed.”

    However, other language experts supporting the Serbian language say there are no scientific or linguistic arguments for justifying the creation of what they call a new language on the territory of the former Yugoslavia.

    “Calling the official language in Montenegro Montenegrin implies … renaming the content of Serbian language,” said Professor Miodrag Jovanovic, of the Serbian language department in Niksic.

    Professor Jovanovic said the independence of a state did not necessarily mean renaming the language spoken in it.

    Rajka Glusica, professor of linguistics at the University of Montenegro, however, thinks the independence of Montenegro is a good enough reason to justify calling the official language Montenegrin, whether or not it has any identifiable characteristics.

    “It is one language, and one communication system,” she said. “The Montenegrin language has its specifics, but they are small and insufficient for differentiation from the Serbian language.”

    Ordinary people are split as much as the political parties and academics. “I speak Serbian and want my children to learn Serbian in schools and not some subsequently fabricated language,” Milan, from Podgorica, grumbled.

    Another resident of Podgorica, who gave her name as Vanja, disagreed strongly. “Since my early childhood I have supported the idea of independence and I can’t accept any other language but Montenegrin as the official one,” she said.

    Bojana Stanisic is a Balkan Insight contributor. Balkan Insight is BIRN`s online publication.

    This article was published with the support of the British embassy in Belgrade and National Endowment for Democracy - NED, as part of BIRN's Minority Media Training and Reporting Project


    http://www.birn.eu.com/en/83/10/2897/?ILStart=10

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    bosmix
    Bosniak representatives are not content with the compromise solution, either. This is because it takes no account of their demand for Bosniak to be proclaimed an official language in the constitution as well. “Without [mention of] a Bosnian language, it’s a flawed solution,” Purisic told Balkan Insight.

    also die minderheiten wollen ihr kulturelles erbe DIE SPRACHE in der verfassung beibehalten.
    verständlich, trotzdem heißt das land montenegro udn in montenegro sollte dann auch in seiner eigenen sprache sprechen, und das sollte dann auch so in der verfassung drin stehen.

    beispiel deutschland: die offiziele amtssprache ist deutsch, und nicht deutsch,türkisch,russisch usw.

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