Das Wahre Gesicht der Serben!
Erstellt von Yugo_King, 26.02.2008, 07:39 Uhr · 63 Antworten · 3.426 Aufrufe
stimmt im serbien-forum bekommt er/sie/es genau die antworten welche er/sie/es hören will. bloß nichts kritisches und bloß nicht die wahrheit. Selten soviel Selbstbeweihräucherung in einem Forum erlebt, aber Kritik und Wahrheitsfindung ist euch ja eh zuwider.
Zitat von Slavymc
p.s. ich denke du wärst im kindergarten deines sohnes besser aufgehoben .
Bischof Artemije in den USA
"Über die Serben als Volk sagte der Bischof, dass sie noch nicht reif genug seien, ihre eigene Schuld einzusehen, so dass sie noch immer dazu neigen, einen anderen Schuldigen für ihre Probleme zu suchen."
New Kosova Report - Justice for Kosovo - Chance for Serbia
Justice for Kosovo - Chance for Serbia Monday, 25 February 2008
Youth Initiative for Human Rights
After the declaration of independence of Kosovo and the "spontaneous" reaction of "rage and anger" depicted in the Prime Minister's words, demolished Embassies, public lynching of those with different political opinions, as well as the declarative call to "peace and peaceful protests", Serbia has hit the bottom. It is less of a problem that in the previous decades we have gotten used to seeing violence, living in it every day and doing it spontaneously to people around us. It is more of a problem that the state politics of Slobodan Milosevic, the politics of violence, has officially returned as the main, driving force, that on which there is a consensus even of the democratic Presedent Tadic, and almost President Nikolic and all the other actes gathered around the leader of the defense of Kosovo, Vojislav Kostunica.
This rock bottom, and this fear that every normal citizen feels regarding what is going to happen the next day, is actually another big chance that we are once again missing. It is a chance for the society in Serbia to face their errors of judgement, to reconsider the politics of the past few decades, to look back and draw the line underneath the decade of conquest, murder, ethnic cleansing, terror over their own citizens and the inhabitants of the region. Kosovo has not been under the rule of Serbia since the day Slobodan Milosevic ended his project by retreating the army and police forces from Kosovo. The politics of conquering territories and nineteenth-century centralistic nationalism is facing a breakdown. Whether it will take something else on its way down, depends on the elite groups in Serbia. Or maybe new politics will arise in its place, appropriate for the modern age, based on cooperation and respect.
Everyone is in wonder because 17 February has happened to us, because there was a celebration and declaration of something we knew had happened in June 1999. Everyone makes excuses for violent behaviour, ancient rights and other mythologies by "our" right to rule "them". Breaking things in Belgrade, they say, is not much in relation to what has happened to us. They talk of cultural heritage, NATO bombing, the Serbs that died in Kosovo.
There is no mention of the Albanians except as "separatists, terrorists, immature people, uncivilized snatchers of our land". Everyone is silent about Albanians. Because, I guess, one does not mention the name of evil. And the evil that Belgrade has done to the Albanians has symbolically ended for them on that very 17 February.
State enemy No 1 is human rights defender Natasa Kandic, because she dared to sit in the Kosovo Parliament in the name of different values. Some media say that she shouldn't exist. Others have a problem with Sonja Biserko, Biljana Kovacevic Vuco. The rest would be satisfied with banning and destroying LDP or the expedition to the apartment of Ceda Jovanovic and insulting and lynching the politics and citizens which he represents. These steps are well known, Milosevic used them too. Kostunica is now simply applying the matrix he had inherited from his predecessor. Just as he had copied the rhetoric, he also did everything to leave Serbia in the gutter and through fear and terrot enforce the final establishment of the new Russian province, which is obviously his goal.
The last colony in Europe gained its freedom on 17 February 2008. From 1912 Kosovo has been ruled by boot and sabre. The people living there had no say in anything. Military authorities were imposed on them since the occupation. At that time, they were pronounced to be a nation not mature enough for democracy. Instead of a civil state and civil management, they recieved a hoard of officers and officials, mostly the worst ones, sent by punishment to Kosovo. Many testimonies from that time speak of violence, discrimination and collonial behaviour of the new masters towards the Albanian population in the region.
While Kosovo was ruled by the army, the intelligence in Belgrade was making plans on how to change the national make-up of the population. The documents of the Serbian Culture Club lead by Slobodan Jovanovic speak of horrible and cruel entertainment of the Serbian national elite. People are refered to as merchandise, something not alive, calculations are made about how many people should move in and move out from different places. The exact same standards will be applied much more efficiently at the end of the 20th century by academics, writers, poets, bishops... "Humane displacement" will become the official politics which will finally result in the creation of Republika Srpska. That is why it is possible today to speak of territory, but not the people, to pledge in Kosovo, but not give pensions to the Albanians, to erase the complete population from the electorial register or the share of free stocks.
The parties changed names, from the National Radical to the League of Communists, from the Socialist Party of Serbia to the Serbian Radical or the Democratic Party of Serbia. The continuity of colonial rule was maintained after the Second World War through military management. Even though the former colonists were forbidden to return to Kosovo, new ones soon arrived. Authority was established through bloody massacres in Drenica and all over Kosovo. Once again there were no "conditions" for civil authorities. The UDBA (State Secret Agency) sovereignly ruled Kosovo until 1966. Many people, rich today, owe their family posessions to the gold stolen from Kosovo Albanians. After the Brioni Plenum there was an ease, but as soon as the ruling circles saw that Kosovo inhabits people who want their rights and who will not reconcile with the existing situation, everything went to the way it used to be.
One year after Tito's death, the Yugoslav National Army "establishes order" in the streets of Pristina, Pec, Prizren... The number of killed Albanians has never been revealed. In the end, in 1989, the "easily promised speed" completely overtakes the legitimate politics. The sovereignity of Kosovo is annuled by tanks, martial law is established and a system very similar to apartheid.
During the nineties, if you were an Albanian, you could not live without fear, let alone work in a school, hospital, the police, or government institutions. Even when the Albanians reacted to such a situation with violence, the elite circles in Serbia did not wonder why, but ravaged villages, civillians, women and children. To be an Albanian, male or female, meant a death sentence. Many were saved by some money or gold. For others, there was no way out.
The nineties are a disgrace for Serbain history, and that must be said out loud in reference to Kosovo. Today in Kosovo, as well as Serbia and the other countries in the region, a large number of people is waiting for the answer to the question where their loved ones are, what happened to them, who killed them. Vojislav Kostunica and his security services hide the answer to that question. Boris Tadic surpresses the answer to that question becase of "stability and the future" and tycoon interests. There is no justice for the Serbs either, if we do not tell the others what we have done to them. There will be no other future if we conceal the facts. And it is futile to rant about crimes over Serbs, world injustice, double standards... Ivica Dacic (Milosevic's party President) clearly stated on the parliamentary speakers stand that the politics of the nineties has been confirmed once more.
When in 1999 revenge and retaliation against the Serbs started, there were no academics or scientists who would look for the cause in the behaviour of the state of Serbia. Or even to be determined according to the 800.000 banished people, mass murders in Meja, Djakovica, Suva Reka, Podujevo, Izbica, Vucitrn... Maybe that would have saved more Serbs than any books written in the name of the defense of Kosovo and such politics. Or any journalist scribblings which announced lynching, which the newspapers are full of these days.
The complete state apparatus was involved in hiding the tracks of mass crimes. Bodies were buried all over Serbia, burned in factories and power plants, sunk into the Danube or Perucac. The policemen, officers, members of National Security, politicians, local tycoons and enterpreneurs, judges and prosecutors, the Government and political parties were involved too. And after all that, Serbia is in wonder. Not a trace of regret, sense of responsibility, readiness to change behaviour. The people directly responsible for Serbia's loss of the right to rule the Kosovo people, today decide our own fate. They will not admit to their mistakes. Instead of that, they will try to tailor the international legislature according to their own dreams. To turn it into a calcified shell which cannot be adjusted to new situations. Because that is how one rules Serbia. That is how laws and constitutions are made here. Full of strong words and phrases, but inapplicable.
Legitimately and legally, the democratic and free part of the world estimated that we cannot terrorize our own citizens forever. Maybe Russia or China still can, but that time will soon pass too. Then the people in Chechnya or Tibet will also gain their deserved place in the community of independent nations. The world's decision (at least the better part of it) to recognize Kosovo, should not be taken as punishment by Serbia. It is not a punishment, it is an opportunity. Not only for Serbia, but for the whole world to strengthen the mechanisms of the protection of human rights and more decisively defy the terror of local dictators. From Beijing to Havana, from Teheran to Moscow.
Serbia is obliged to recognize the Republic of Kosovo. To give a hand of friendship to their legally elected representatives, to help them establish a modern, democratic society. Not because we are more advanced or cultured, but because we owe at least that much to the Kosovo society. And through Kosovo, we can open the issue of the society in Serbia. To reconsider all the illusons and false values, reform institutions, start creating a critical conscience in young people, to reverse the value system and set things in their place. Serbia must, from the mistakes of the past, learn the lessons which will take us to building a new society and a different future. By making violence legitimate and attacking people with different political opinions, the authorities are only continuing the old and already seen practice.
Those who think that they will destroy critical thinking and the need for different relations with the neigbours in this way, are sadly mistaken. The mass "events of the people" just take us back and create new mistakes which will cost us dearly.
By Andrej Nosov and Dragan Popovic
Andrej Nosov is President and founder of YIHR and Dragan Popovic is International Justice Program Coordinator.
Noel Malcolm: Is Kosovo Serbia? We ask a historian | World news | The Guardian
Leider sind solche Stimmen viel zu Leise, als dass man sie wahrnimmt.
Aber zumindest besteht Hoffnung, dass viele Serben sich kritisch hinterfragen und sie eine friedvolle Koexistenz mit Kosovo, Bosnien, Montenegro und Kroatien in Erwägung ziehen. Die alternative wäre Isolation (keine freien Reisen und permanente Überwachung) und dauerhafte Instabilität (bedeutet kein Wirtschaftswachstum, keine Entfaltung und Weiterentwicklung).
Zitat von Adriatic
kann man den danke daumen auch jemanden in den arsch schieben??
bist du es wirklich mein sohn?
Zitat von Legija
hast du ihn gespührt??
du lenkst mal wieder ab!
Zitat von rapnationcrew
warst du mal in bosnien und hast dir sarajevo angeschaut?????
belgrad wurde bombadiert, NA UND! die haben sich das selbst zuzuschreiben!
sarajevo und gorazde wurden jahrelang bombadiert! und weiter?
diese video ist nicht 1% objektiv!
die nennen das bsp. tuzla wo der konvoi angegriffen wurde!
es wird aber nicht gesagt dass bjeljina zu der zeit schon ethnisch gesäubert war und das der krieg schon begonnen hatte!
jetzt frag ich dich wenn die JNA legitim war und für das wohl der menschen sorgen wollte, warum wurde sie dann evakueirt?
WAS machen vollbeladene LKW´s in feindlichen gebiet?
genauso wie in slovenien, dort wird gesagt es wurde auf JNA soldaten geschossen!
na was erwarten die sonst, das man ihnen blumen nachwirft?
dieses video ist reine propaganda,.. und den titel trägt es zurecht!
das wahre gesicht der serben..... betrügen und die wahrheit verzerren wo es nur geht!
Du solltest dir mal meine Threads reinziehen, und nicht immer Saure Milch drüberschütten. Dann währe dir aufgefallen das ich in jedem Bundesland von Yugoslavien Verwandte haben und ich hab jedes Bundesland schon einmal Besucht gehabt. Ausserdem bekomme ich laufend von meine Verwandte Schilderungen wie es unten ist.
Zitat von meko
für mich und bleibst du ein quenjo vandjo boni kariba boni quiu fiu jiu, ich bin mir sicher das du weißt was das ist.
Schieb ihn Dir mal selber rein und erzähl uns wie es war - oder besser nicht. Es könnte Dir ja Spass gemacht haben
Zitat von Legija
und solltest wissen dass es yugoslavien nicht mehr gibt!
Zitat von rapnationcrew
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