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Endlosschleife: Mazedonier vs. Griechen

Erstellt von Mudi, 09.12.2011, 08:01 Uhr · 13.498 Antworten · 460.019 Aufrufe

  1. #11811
    Avatar von Kalampakiotis

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    Naoussa Rotwein








    θελω μπουγατσα

  2. #11812

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    Zitat Zitat von mk1krv1 Beitrag anzeigen
    Nein ,wir sind Makedonier und ihr seid nur Griechen.
    herjey, regnet endlich Hirn auf euren Köpfen in Skopje....tut schon fast weh sowas zu lesen..

  3. #11813
    Avatar von Zoran

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    Zitat Zitat von NickTheGreat Beitrag anzeigen
    herjey, regnet endlich Hirn auf euren Köpfen in Skopje....tut schon fast weh sowas zu lesen..

    NickTheFreak, er kanns halt nicht lassen.

    Nochmal langsam.

    Du Grieche.
    Ich und Er Makedone.

    Pozdrav

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    Former and current Greek PMs planned attack on Macedonia with Milosevich
    Tuesday, 12 February 2013


    If you carefully follow the Greek policy in the Balkans in the last 20 years, there is only one strategic goal on Athens' mind - Macedonia to disappear!


    Greece's ambitions during the first years of Macedonia's independence, and later during the 2001 externally orchestrated conflict were to occupy the Macedonian cities of Ohrid - Bitola, Prilep and Strumica.


    These plans for military aggression against Macedonia by the Greek Army (with government approval) were discussed during several meetings of Serbian and Greek politicians (Slobodan Milosevic, Constantine Mitsotakis and Antonis Samaras), of course, during certain phases of the discussions Romanian and Bulgarian politicians were invited as well.


    The entire mosaic of this plan is easily unfolded by several foreign intelligence reports, journalistic research, and in part from interviews and memoirs written by Mitsotakis, Milosevic, Samaras, Zhelyu Zhelev and Sali Berisha.


    For the realization of these strategic war plans it was not an accident that the Greeks staged two large military exercises, the first in 1992 named Alexandros and later in 1999 dubbed Philippos. During the first drill, Greek warplanes invaded Macedonian airspace numerous times at a depth of 37 kilometers, near the Demir Kapija gorge, exactly where official Athens saw their 'new' national frontier.


    Serbian-Greek border

    Takis Mihas, a Greek journalist and author of the "Evil Alliance" reveals Greece's role in the Yugoslav wars and their open support of the policies of Slobodan Milosevic. The purpose of Milosevic and Mitsotakis, a former Greek prime minister was to rearrange the borders in the Balkans as they see fit.


    As always, in the history of the Balkans, Macedonia has had a central place in each plan for a 'makeover'. To this day it remains an open question about the role of EU and NATO in these plans to draw some new inter-state borders.
    The role of Greece and Serbia in these plans was always very clear - Serbia and Greece to become neighbors.

    "There is a growing pile of evidence that lead to the conclusion that the influential political forces in Greece in the early 1990s looked at their Macedonian neighbors with much more than to change their name. The real goal of some instances was destabilization and disappearance of the young country," writes Greek journalist Takis Mihas.

    According to him, "Greek politicians insisted on the name change, although they were aware that it means giving up the most important symbol of the collective identity of the majority population, and as such, the requirement could not be met by Macedonian politicians."
    If behind these plans was hiding the plans for territorial conquest with "brotherly" Serbia, today Mitsotakis' strategic plan to destabilize Macedonia remained valid for all Greek governments after him.


    Everything is the same as in 1992
    In 1992 three meetings initiated by Mitsotakis took place in Athens. The main topic of each meeting was attack and division of Macedonia. During the first meeting, the president of Romania stunned by Mitsotakis' plan, rejected the proposal while representatives from SR Yugoslavia and Bulgaria's president abstained.


    The second meeting took place without Romania's president. Bulgaria once again abstained, while Milosevic asked for more time because of his engagement in Croatia and Bosnia.
    The third meeting was between Mitsotakis and Milosevic, only. However, the two failed to agree on a plan to attack Macedonia.


    Macedonia had sources, and was timely informed about Greece's initiatives and the meetings that took place in Athens. Official Skopje was also informed when the Greek Government in a secretive session approved an attack on Macedonia.
    As a result, in October of 1992, a full scale military exercise dubbed Alexandros started two kilometers from the Macedonian border. The Macedonian Army for 10 days was at its highest combat readiness.


    Why Greece changed its mind and cancelled the agression is unclear. We can only speculate that it could have been prevented from the leader of the Greek Communist Party Aleka Papariga who in Solun announced "If Athens does not withdraw an important decision, she would tell the world". Another speculation is that warning came from Ankara to stay away from Macedonia.
    After Greece cancelled its military aggression on Macedoina, it quickly introduced an economic embargo by closing the border with Macedonia.


    This was an attempt by Greece to establish a thesis of Macedonia being unable to survive as a country economically. Greece's illegal move was followed by silence from Brussels and the EU.
    Plan for Athens military aggression on Macedonia was also confirmed by well known Greek military intelligence officer Grilakis, the man who walked into Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Gligorov's cabinets and gave them suitcases with cash and gifts for their willingness to change the name.


    Coincidentally or not, the alliance with Bulgaria and on occasion with Romania continue to repeat (meetings in Sofia and Athens), this time the topic being "blocking Macedonia's integration into the EU". This time, it is somewhat more sophisticated, unlike the plans for military aggression. EU's behavior is no different, remains the same as in 1992.

    20 years later, the official Greek policy is guided by the same strategic goals defined by Mitsotakis and Samaras. The latter is the current Prime Minister of Greece.
    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/22692/45/

  4. #11814
    Avatar von Achillis TH

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    εμεις μακεδονες εσεις τι σλαβι με Disneyland 2.0

  5. #11815
    Avatar von artemi

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    Zitat Zitat von Achillis TH Beitrag anzeigen
    εμεις μακεδονες εσεις τι σλαβι με Disneyland 2.0
    ise vlachopontiakos, besserakis du lesenopoulos paaros bücherakis

  6. #11816
    Avatar von Hellenic-Pride

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    Zitat Zitat von mk1krv1 Beitrag anzeigen
    Wenn du mit mir keine Unterhaltung fuehren willst wieso machst du das dann?
    Anscheinend merkst du nicht einmal dass ich keine ernsthafte Unterhaltung mit dir führe, kleiner Junge. Du dienst wahrlich zur Unterhaltung; mehr nicht.

    Zitat Zitat von mk1krv1
    Und hoer verdammt nochmal auf die Benutzernamen der Anderen falsch zu zitieren. Kannst du nicht mal einen Benutzernamen richtig zitieren?
    Das kannst du deinen Landsleuten erzählen, die hier ständig Nicknamen verhunzen.

    Zitat Zitat von mk1krv1
    Da hast du kein Recht mir dazwischen zureden und mich als Fyromer oder Suedslawe zu bezeichnen.
    Klar hab ich das Recht dich einen Südslawen zu nennen; bist ja auch einer.

    Zitat Zitat von mk1krv1
    Und von dir brauch ich auch keine Hoffnung zugesprochen bekommen. Denn so unreif wie du bist ...Ausserdem ist das einzige was baden gegangen ist wohl dein Verstand.
    Lern Deutsch, Junge ... ist ja mehr als grässlich, deine Grammatik. Außer pubertierendes Geplärre hast du bisher nichts produktives liefern können. Auch indem du hier wie ein Fötzchen bläst, zeigt keine besondere Stärke. Brauchst dich also nicht für deine dekadenten Landsleute hier, die sich ebenfalls wie kleine Fötzchen aufführen, nicht einzusetzen. Da wir aber bei deiner Steilvorlage sind, bleiben wir mal dabei. Du schreibst von: Die Frage ist nur wie lange wird die Geschichtsschreibung eure Position vertreten ...

    Warum sollte die Geschichtsschreibung nicht die griechische Position vertreten? Und wenn dies irgendwann der Fall sein sollte, wie würde das ablaufen? Bücherverbrennung?

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    Zitat Zitat von Zoran Beitrag anzeigen
    NickTheFreak, er kanns halt nicht lassen.

    Nochmal langsam.

    Du Grieche.
    Ich und Er Makedone.
    Der Esel nennt sich immer zuerst ... wundert mich gerade nicht, bei dir Esel.

    http://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Streit-um-...cle530627.html


  7. #11817
    Avatar von Makedonec do Koska

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    Zitat Zitat von Hellenic-Pride Beitrag anzeigen
    Der hat bestimmt Eye of the Tiger gehört während er das geschrieben hat!

    @mk1krv1:

    Ich hab echt kein Bock mich mit dir zu unterhalten; ich will meine Zeit sinnvoll nutzen! Ja, ich beleidige welche wie Zoran oder Gaywalker, weil hellenophobe Propagandisten es nicht anders verdienen! Ich hab hier des öfteren einen Dialog gesucht und stattdessen wurde ich hier permanent beleidigt - persönlich sogar!!! Also was willst du mit erzählen, Bubb? Du kannst von mir aus slawischer Mazedonier sein - Betonung auf SLAWISCH - aber das heißt noch lange nicht dass ihr euch mit den Makedonen der Antike identifizieren könnt! Anyway ... du musst noch viel lernen aber bei dir ist ebenfalls jede Hoffnung baden gegangen ...


    Hellenic-Quasimodo


    Ja, Du hast Recht, Du tust Deine Zeit hier wirklich sinnvoll nutzen Du chauvinistisches narzisstisches Stück Scheiße, so sinnvoll das Abschaum wie Du einfach nur Beifall beim Kampf gegen Windmühlen verdient!

  8. #11818
    Avatar von Hellenic-Pride

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    Zitat Zitat von Zoran Beitrag anzeigen

    Former and current Greek PMs planned attack on Macedonia with Milosevich
    Tuesday, 12 February 2013


    If you carefully follow the Greek policy in the Balkans in the last 20 years, there is only one strategic goal on Athens' mind - Macedonia to disappear!


    Greece's ambitions during the first years of Macedonia's independence, and later during the 2001 externally orchestrated conflict were to occupy the Macedonian cities of Ohrid - Bitola, Prilep and Strumica.


    These plans for military aggression against Macedonia by the Greek Army (with government approval) were discussed during several meetings of Serbian and Greek politicians (Slobodan Milosevic, Constantine Mitsotakis and Antonis Samaras), of course, during certain phases of the discussions Romanian and Bulgarian politicians were invited as well.


    The entire mosaic of this plan is easily unfolded by several foreign intelligence reports, journalistic research, and in part from interviews and memoirs written by Mitsotakis, Milosevic, Samaras, Zhelyu Zhelev and Sali Berisha.


    For the realization of these strategic war plans it was not an accident that the Greeks staged two large military exercises, the first in 1992 named Alexandros and later in 1999 dubbed Philippos. During the first drill, Greek warplanes invaded Macedonian airspace numerous times at a depth of 37 kilometers, near the Demir Kapija gorge, exactly where official Athens saw their 'new' national frontier.


    Serbian-Greek border

    Takis Mihas, a Greek journalist and author of the "Evil Alliance" reveals Greece's role in the Yugoslav wars and their open support of the policies of Slobodan Milosevic. The purpose of Milosevic and Mitsotakis, a former Greek prime minister was to rearrange the borders in the Balkans as they see fit.


    As always, in the history of the Balkans, Macedonia has had a central place in each plan for a 'makeover'. To this day it remains an open question about the role of EU and NATO in these plans to draw some new inter-state borders.
    The role of Greece and Serbia in these plans was always very clear - Serbia and Greece to become neighbors.

    "There is a growing pile of evidence that lead to the conclusion that the influential political forces in Greece in the early 1990s looked at their Macedonian neighbors with much more than to change their name. The real goal of some instances was destabilization and disappearance of the young country," writes Greek journalist Takis Mihas.

    According to him, "Greek politicians insisted on the name change, although they were aware that it means giving up the most important symbol of the collective identity of the majority population, and as such, the requirement could not be met by Macedonian politicians."
    If behind these plans was hiding the plans for territorial conquest with "brotherly" Serbia, today Mitsotakis' strategic plan to destabilize Macedonia remained valid for all Greek governments after him.


    Everything is the same as in 1992
    In 1992 three meetings initiated by Mitsotakis took place in Athens. The main topic of each meeting was attack and division of Macedonia. During the first meeting, the president of Romania stunned by Mitsotakis' plan, rejected the proposal while representatives from SR Yugoslavia and Bulgaria's president abstained.


    The second meeting took place without Romania's president. Bulgaria once again abstained, while Milosevic asked for more time because of his engagement in Croatia and Bosnia.
    The third meeting was between Mitsotakis and Milosevic, only. However, the two failed to agree on a plan to attack Macedonia.


    Macedonia had sources, and was timely informed about Greece's initiatives and the meetings that took place in Athens. Official Skopje was also informed when the Greek Government in a secretive session approved an attack on Macedonia.
    As a result, in October of 1992, a full scale military exercise dubbed Alexandros started two kilometers from the Macedonian border. The Macedonian Army for 10 days was at its highest combat readiness.


    Why Greece changed its mind and cancelled the agression is unclear. We can only speculate that it could have been prevented from the leader of the Greek Communist Party Aleka Papariga who in Solun announced "If Athens does not withdraw an important decision, she would tell the world". Another speculation is that warning came from Ankara to stay away from Macedonia.
    After Greece cancelled its military aggression on Macedoina, it quickly introduced an economic embargo by closing the border with Macedonia.


    This was an attempt by Greece to establish a thesis of Macedonia being unable to survive as a country economically. Greece's illegal move was followed by silence from Brussels and the EU.
    Plan for Athens military aggression on Macedonia was also confirmed by well known Greek military intelligence officer Grilakis, the man who walked into Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Gligorov's cabinets and gave them suitcases with cash and gifts for their willingness to change the name.


    Coincidentally or not, the alliance with Bulgaria and on occasion with Romania continue to repeat (meetings in Sofia and Athens), this time the topic being "blocking Macedonia's integration into the EU". This time, it is somewhat more sophisticated, unlike the plans for military aggression. EU's behavior is no different, remains the same as in 1992.

    20 years later, the official Greek policy is guided by the same strategic goals defined by Mitsotakis and Samaras. The latter is the current Prime Minister of Greece.
    MINA Breaking News
    Propaganda Meldungen aus einem Land dass gezielt Propaganda betreibt ... da kann man nur sagen: Schwein gehabt, liebe Slawen.

  9. #11819
    Avatar von Paokaras

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    Zitat Zitat von Zoran Beitrag anzeigen
    NickTheFreak, er kanns halt nicht lassen.

    Nochmal langsam.

    Du Grieche.
    Ich und Er Makedone.

    Pozdrav

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    Former and current Greek PMs planned attack on Macedonia with Milosevich
    Tuesday, 12 February 2013


    PAPARIGA

  10. #11820
    Avatar von Hellenic-Pride

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    Zitat Zitat von Daywalker1979 Beitrag anzeigen


    Hellenic-Quasimodo


    Ja, Du hast Recht, Du tust Deine Zeit hier wirklich sinnvoll nutzen Du chauvinistisches narzisstisches Stück Scheiße, so sinnvoll das Abschaum wie Du einfach nur Beifall beim Kampf gegen Windmühlen verdient!
    Hey, dein Landsmann mk1krv1 mag es nicht wenn hier Nicknamen verhunzt werden. Auch wenn du dich damit schwer tust, tue ihm doch den gefallen und schreib meinen Nicknamen richtig. Klar, Gaywalker? Wie läuft´s eigentlich mit deinen faulen Zähnen, du unhygienisches Etwas? Scheinbar hat sich deine faulende Fresse nicht erholt, so viel faulen Dünschiss wie du hier ablässt.

    CPIxAxxWWH.jpg

    Mach mal das was du am besten kannst: unter den verblödeten Beiträgen deiner verblödeten Freunde den Danke-Button drücken. Zu mehr bist du ja nicht fähig, du jämmerliches Etwas.

    465 Beiträge - 671 Danke abgegeben - 144 Danke erhalten



    Nenn dich doch gleich Thankswalker, du Opfer!

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